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Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec

Posted By: Brianne Corbett
Date: Saturday, 15 February 2003, at 7:46 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec (Alex M)

: Thanks, good article; divers sure know their stuff. Question to those using a
: dry-top/Farmer-john combination: how effective is it, any leaks to upper
: body under FJ skin?

Yep...

Mine leaks but it doesn't bother me much. If the water is real cold, I always wear a second neoprene layer... either a full 3mm jacket with long sleeves or a long sleeve hydroskin top. The hydroskin is very good for this purpose. It is a good augmenter but not good as the primary layer. It keeps your arms warm enough and is quite snug. Nevertheless the thick wetsuit is keeping the core warm.

As I said... 6.5mm in three layers plus poly underneath and a drytop is maxed out for me. If the water is any colder than this outfit will handle then I am home watching TV. I feel that with head covering and thick neoprene gloves I am good to about 40 degree water in this gear. This is Lake Superior in summer except in some shallow areas or river mouths were she heats up a bit more.

Spring and fall would call for a drysuit on Lake Superior. I confess that I often go with less than 6.5mm. I should only do this if I am really shorehugging, but it is hard. With 80 or 90 degree air temperatures, it is very tough to paddle with 3.5mm plus drytop much less 6.5mm plus drytop. Heck it is hard to paddle with drytop and rashguard at those temps.

I actually carry a mist-er and mist myself to cool off when I am on Superior in summer. I also pour a lot of water over my head to keep cool. In June, Lake Superior water in the Apostle Islands is about 38 degrees. Cutting corners can be very dangerous there. I confess that I do it. But it is a calculated risk. I feel like I have many possibilities to win... roll back up... re-enter and roll... use C-Step and climb back in... assisted rescue with my partner's help... or even swim to shore.

I typically have at least 3.5mm on. I do have some time... though not limitless time. If I am close in, I can make shore. The problem comes doing long crossings. I usually paddle point to point versus shorehugging. This often puts me far out to sea. This creates danger for me.

For example, on the north shore the crossing from Michipicoten River near Wawa to Perkwakwia Point is about 4 miles. If the wind is blowing from the North or NE and you are a mile or two out heading west, capsize alone, and lose your boat... you have a BIG problem on your hands. The wind is blowing you out to sea and you have a very long swim home. At 38 or 40 degrees and 3.5mm you might not make it depending on the breaks. You will need some luck, flares and hope that someone sees them... or maybe a windshift.

Safe Paddling!
Brianne

Messages In This Thread

Now, how about Polartec "tropical dive-suits"?
Alex M -- Sunday, 9 February 2003, at 3:42 p.m.
Re: Now, how about Polartec "tropical dive-suits"?
Robert Woodard -- Sunday, 9 February 2003, at 8:09 p.m.
Re: Polartec suits *LINK*
Brad Farr -- Monday, 10 February 2003, at 11:45 p.m.
Re: Polartec suits *LINK*
Robert Woodard -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 1:19 a.m.
Correcting a common misconception
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 12:54 p.m.
Re: Correcting a common misconception
Robert Woodard -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 2:56 p.m.
Polartec leakage
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 12:07 p.m.
Re: Polartec leakage
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 4:56 p.m.
Re: Polartec suits
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: Polartec suits
Robert Woodard -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 2:37 p.m.
Re: Welcome home Woody
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 2:55 p.m.
Re: Welcome home Woody
Robert Woodard -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 3:06 p.m.
Re: Welcome home Woody
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 3:50 p.m.
Re: Welcome home Woody
Robert Woodard -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 4:02 p.m.
Re: Polartec suits
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 1:13 p.m.
Polartec Shocker!
Brianne Corbett -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 11:06 p.m.
*chuckle*. polartec union suits anybody?
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 11:00 a.m.
see "I really had to pee . . ." below *NM*
Rob P -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 1:50 p.m.
I'd better buy a lottery ticket!
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 12:06 p.m.
Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec *LINK*
Brianne Corbett -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 11:00 p.m.
Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 11:01 a.m.
Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 12 February 2003, at 4:54 p.m.
Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec
Alex M -- Saturday, 15 February 2003, at 3:26 p.m.
Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec
Brianne Corbett -- Saturday, 15 February 2003, at 7:46 p.m.
Re: Risky business?
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 17 February 2003, at 11:17 a.m.
Managing the risk
Brianne Corbett -- Monday, 17 February 2003, at 6:58 p.m.
Re: Managing the risk
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 18 February 2003, at 3:05 p.m.
Terrible Situation
Brianne Corbett -- Tuesday, 18 February 2003, at 7:33 p.m.
Re: Kokatat for women
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 18 February 2003, at 7:57 p.m.
Re: Kokatat for women
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 6:55 p.m.
Re: Kokatat for women *LINK*
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 11:41 a.m.
Re: Kokatat for women
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 3:28 p.m.
Re: Kokatat for women
Bill Price -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 4:41 p.m.
Re: Kokatat for women
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 4:50 p.m.
OT: Freezers
Bill Price -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 5:16 p.m.
Re: OT: Freezers
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 5:34 p.m.
Re: Kokatat for women
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 4:50 p.m.
Re: Update - Kokatat for women
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 5:37 p.m.
Yeah, compromising sucks.
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 12:15 p.m.
Re: Yeah, compromising sucks.
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 6:57 p.m.
Re: Terrible Situation
bethp -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m.
Re: Shegear.com
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 6:58 p.m.
Re: Terrible Situation
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 7:00 p.m.
Re: Some better info about Neoprene/Polartec
LeeG -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 11:28 a.m.
Polartec "tropical dive-suits" are useless *LINK*
Diverlink -- Sunday, 2 March 2003, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: Polartec "tropical dive-suits" are useless
Chuck Sutherland -- Saturday, 8 March 2003, at 12:44 p.m.
More sloppy work from a hack writer
Diverlink -- Thursday, 13 March 2003, at 2:04 p.m.
Re: More baiting from an anonymous troll
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 13 March 2003, at 7:04 p.m.
Re: More sloppy work from a hack writer *LINK*
Robert Woodard -- Friday, 14 March 2003, at 3:05 p.m.
Facts, not hyperbole
Diverlink -- Friday, 14 March 2003, at 4:23 p.m.
Re: I agree with you.
yakman -- Friday, 14 March 2003, at 8:08 p.m.
Re: Facts, not hyperbole *Pic*
Robert Woodard -- Sunday, 16 March 2003, at 9:54 p.m.
The table
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 12:59 p.m.
Re: The table
Robert Woodard -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 1:19 p.m.
It sounds bad
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 4:57 p.m.
Re: The table
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:54 p.m.
Another lie, or a lack of knowledge *LINK*
Diverlink -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 6:27 p.m.
Re: polartec and neoprene
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 8:21 p.m.
Re: The table
Kevin Street -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 2:16 p.m.
Good point!
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:00 p.m.
Re: The table
Robert Woodard -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: The table
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:05 p.m.
Re: The table
Robert Woodard -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:21 p.m.
From the Malden Mills web site.
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:37 p.m.
Re: From the Malden Mills web site.
Robert Woodard -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:41 p.m.
Re: Cheap Rashguards
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 6:00 p.m.
Looks like GR is back. *NM*
Shawn Baker -- Sunday, 16 March 2003, at 8:29 p.m.
Re: Google Diverlink and get the scoop *NM*
Ted Henry -- Sunday, 16 March 2003, at 10:02 p.m.
That says it all. Ignore Eddie Rhodes' posts
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 12:50 p.m.
Re: That says it all. Ignore Eddie Rhodes' posts
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 1:04 p.m.
Re: That says it all. Ignore Eddie Rhodes' posts
Robert Woodard -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 1:43 p.m.
Re: Nick's the admin...
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 5:50 p.m.
Assume nothing *LINK*
Diverlink -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 6:34 p.m.
No I think its Sponson timmy!!!! *NM*
Bert -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 8:54 a.m.
Re: Looks like GR is back.
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 1:00 p.m.

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