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a swede that fishes

Posted By: tom
Date: Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 10:11 p.m.

In Response To: Thanks for a very informative post, Tom. (Pamela)

Hi Pamela,
I am glad you found the post informative. Keep in mind it is just my thought on skegs and is not necessarily accurate. What one thinks to be true and what is true are two different things. As far a swede and fish form i tend not to get too caught up in the debates between the two camps. Likewise the discussions of the effect of a flat bottomed boat and a boat with a slight, mild or pronounced v bottom. For me there are to many variable involved. a flat bottomed boat that is 24 or 25 inches wide and one that is 21 inches are dramatically different in how they handle even though they are both flat.
the people that design kayaks have many places they can tweak the design to get the boat to do what they want. I try to feel how the boat handles overall. How it paddles for me--what i am looking for in a boat. If most designers were up front i think they would admit they are surprised with how some of their designs paddle. Fluid dynamics is difficult for experts (and i would put very few kayak designers in the expert category) at best. How a boat feels for you is the important issue.
with my last post on skegs let me say up front i am not pro or con rudder. I think they have their place. Especially in long trips like Paul Caffin did. A woman paddler i know is thinking of going from a boat with a skeg to a boat with a rudder for a variety of reasons. The important point is that she is making an informed decision (if she does make the change) on the type of paddling she wants to do now. It is amazing that the people i know that like kayaks without rudders will give her a hard time. she is a good paddler, it is her time, it is her boat, she knows what she want to do, she should paddle what she wants to because she is making an informed decision.
tom

Messages In This Thread

Using a skeg?
Pamela -- Saturday, 19 October 2002, at 7:54 p.m.

I have no use for them meself...
Gazebo -- Saturday, 19 October 2002, at 10:47 p.m.

It depends on the boat
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 8:34 a.m.

Re: I have no use for them meself...
Mike Scarborough -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 10:16 a.m.

Re: I have no use for them meself...
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 1:36 p.m.

Re: I have no use for them meself...
M.Hamilton -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 1:52 p.m.

Re: Using a skeg?
Ed Deery -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 12:37 a.m.

two boats?
Randy Knauff -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 3:42 a.m.

Re: two boats?
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 8:04 a.m.

Skeg thoughts
M.Hamilton -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 1:47 p.m.

Re: Skeg thoughts
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 3:08 p.m.

Re: Skeg thoughts
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 4:40 p.m.

Advocet Skeg....reply to Shawn
M. Hamilton -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 7:24 p.m.

Re: Advocet Skeg...
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 10:51 a.m.

Avocet handling
Randy Knauff -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 1:26 p.m.

Re: Avocet handling and capacity
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 4:03 p.m.

HUUUUMMMMMMMMMM
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 12:30 p.m.

Re: HUUUUMMMMMMMMMM
Bert -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 7:07 p.m.

Re: HUUUUMMMMMMMMMM
jimkozel -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 11:38 p.m.

Re: HUUUUMMMMMMMMMM
Don Lucas -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 10:22 a.m.

Natural vibrations
Jed -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 2:14 p.m.

Re: Natural vibrations
mike allen -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 3:14 p.m.

Re: Natural vibrations
Randy Knauff -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 10:28 p.m.

Re: Natural vibrations
Jim Kozel -- Thursday, 24 October 2002, at 9:05 a.m.

Re: Using a skeg?
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 8:40 a.m.

Re: Using a skeg?
Bert -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 8:01 a.m.

Lake currents
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 8:10 a.m.

Re: Lake currents
Gazebo -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 3:44 p.m.

Re: Lake currents
Bert -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 5:17 p.m.

Counterpoint
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 1:05 p.m.

Re: Using a skeg?
tom -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 8:48 p.m.

Thanks for a very informative post, Tom.
Pamela -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 9:34 p.m.

a swede that fishes
tom -- Sunday, 20 October 2002, at 10:11 p.m.

Evens out friction? What do you mean?
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 9:43 a.m.

????
sing -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 11:22 a.m.

Re: Evens out friction? What do you mean?
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 1:48 p.m.

I don't agree with everything, but a good post
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 3:36 p.m.

The weak link
Pamela -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 3:49 p.m.

Re: The weak link
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 3:57 p.m.

Re: The weak link
Pamela -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 4:19 p.m.

Tenacity? No way, I'm just stubborn....
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 11:16 p.m.

air ruddering
Randy Knauff -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 7:08 p.m.

True also
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 11:19 p.m.

Thanks, Randy
Pamela -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 8:42 a.m.

Re: air ruddering
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 12:22 p.m.

Link?
Pete Staehling -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 8:01 a.m.

Re: Zoelzer Link
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 12:07 p.m.

Re: Zoelzer Link
Pete Staehling -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 5:22 p.m.

Re: cable drag
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 6:59 p.m.

faster down : )
Randy Knauff -- Wednesday, 23 October 2002, at 10:18 p.m.

Re: cable drag
Pete Staehling -- Thursday, 24 October 2002, at 11:44 a.m.

Rudders: a interesting test
Pamela -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 1:51 p.m.

Re: Rudders: a interesting test
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 2:06 p.m.

Pursuit/Currituck
Pamela -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 2:26 p.m.

"I love my new boat" is operative term here- enjoy
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 3:33 p.m.

Wind vs. water effects
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 1:59 p.m.

That is, it compensates for weather cocking... *NM*
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 3:36 p.m.

Yes, that's what it's designed to do. *NM*
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 4:34 p.m.

What if?????
M. Hamilton -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 8:02 p.m.

Great post....absolutism sucks! *NM*
Gazebo -- Monday, 21 October 2002, at 11:20 p.m.

Re: What if?????
Robert -- Tuesday, 22 October 2002, at 12:17 p.m.

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