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I don't agree at all

Posted By: Brian Nystrom
Date: Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 9:01 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex (David)

: Thanks for sharing this with us. This is one downside to the roll, it
: involves submersion to setup, when one could be out of the water in about
: 30 seconds with a paddle float or 1 minute with sponsons.

A typical roll takes all of 2-3 seconds, You're not hanging out in the water and are in no danger of losing your boat or paddle. Cold water induced hypothermia is not a threat. I've never had any problems with the gasp reflex when rolling, either in practice or under combat conditions.

If you're referring to doing a "re-entry and roll" as opposed to the other techniques, I see your point. In my particular case, it could have been an problem. However, I've done it in colder, rougher water without problems (when wearing a hood). Paddle float or sponson rescues under such conditions would have been difficult. It's possible to execute a re-entry and roll with only momentary submersion, if you enter with the boat on it's side and only capsize for the final pull into the seat, then roll. Again, it's only 2-3 seconds under water.

Using a foam paddle float is pretty fast and I suppose 30 seconds is possible, though not likely in conditions. An inflatable paddle float takes 15-30 seconds longer. Unless you carry sponsons on your deck and inflated, they will take considerable time to inflate and install (don't believe the Sea Wings hogwash). Feathercraft has a video of rescue techniques and I've been told the sponson rescue takes ~3 minutes. I have not tried this myself, but it makes sense based on the size of the sponsons and the fact that you have to inflate two of them.

Messages In This Thread

Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 12:46 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Ben Staley -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 1:29 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 1:43 p.m.
Welcome to the club...
Craig Mackinnon -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 1:30 p.m.
Re: Surprise death to the Gasp Reflex
Randy Knauff -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 6:11 p.m.
What if...
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 8:32 p.m.
Re: What if...
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 2:02 p.m.
Cold water reactions
brad shepard -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 9:21 p.m.
Re: Cold water reactions
Carl Tjerandsen -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 11:00 a.m.
larynixospasm
don flowers -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 12:58 p.m.
Re: Cold water reactions
Craig Mackinnon -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 11:00 a.m.
Re: thanks
LeeG -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 11:27 a.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
tom -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 3:34 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Craig Mackinnon -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 3:56 p.m.
Yep, that's it.
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 5:06 p.m.
epiglottal stop
Randy Knauff -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 8:15 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Ken Sutherland -- Wednesday, 29 May 2002, at 6:07 a.m.
Thanks for the reference, Ken.
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 29 May 2002, at 12:35 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
David -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 6:14 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Tim Mattson -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 2:47 a.m.
I don't agree at all
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 9:01 a.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Pete Staehling -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 9:44 a.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 28 May 2002, at 12:54 p.m.
Re: Surprise introduction to the Gasp Reflex
Pete Staehling -- Tuesday, 28 May 2002, at 2:59 p.m.

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