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Re: A good demo of torso rotation benefits

Posted By: David
Date: Friday, 24 May 2002, at 12:00 a.m.

In Response To: A good demo of torso rotation benefits (Pamela)

Personally Pam, I think some of the Harborfront crew are getting a little too racing style in their paddling, and I don't see most of us holding up to our ideals which we teach in class. This has lead me to believe more and more that each person has their own paddling style, but that will come after 2-5 years of practice. I agree strongly with Jed Luby on the need for structure at your stage and to preserve structure as a reference point thereafter. But the comments on this discussion are broadening my perspective, and I haven't seen anyone hold that straight arm catch when the students aren't looking. So my feeling is that more bend in the arm is still compatible with ab power in the stroke.

In a recent forward stroke coaching session, I had a vivid off-water
: demonstration of how torso rotation shifts the catch forward. The coach
: told me to sit on the floor and 'paddle' without using torso rotation. My
: 'catch' was marked on the floor with a coin. Then I tried the foward
: stroke with torso rotation and my 'catch' moved forward 6 or 8 inches.

: The coach also provided a good model for non-mathematical people like me who
: can't visualize 120 degrees and don't dare look at anything except the
: traffic in this very busy harbour. I was told to keep my arms straight
: through most of the stroke, just softening them toward the end.

: Pamela

Messages In This Thread

Forward Stroke Revisited
David -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 9:45 a.m.
Forward Stroke Link:
Craig Mackinnon -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 11:15 a.m.
why you hide behind an authority? :O *NM*
risto -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 1:16 p.m.
Re: why you hide behind an authority? :O
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: teachers
LeeG -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 5:53 p.m.
re-inventing the wheel is fun.... :)
risto -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 12:20 p.m.
Re: re-inventing the wheel is fun.... :)
don flowers -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 1:05 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Link:
Ted Henry -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 3:59 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Link:
don flowers -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 6:40 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Link:
KenB -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 7:13 p.m.
Thanks for the link 8) *NM*
don flowers -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 8:52 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Revisited
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 1:19 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Revisited
Randy Knauff -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 3:18 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Revisited
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Revisited
LeeG -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 6:03 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Pedal=Paddle
dave mcadoo -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 6:18 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Revisited
njkayaker -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 7:01 p.m.
Re: Forward Stroke Revisited
David -- Wednesday, 22 May 2002, at 10:50 p.m.
Dogma and Gurus
M.Hamilton -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 2:10 a.m.
Re: Dogma and Gurus
David -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 10:23 a.m.
Re: Dogma and Gurus
David -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 10:34 a.m.
Re: Dogma and Gurus
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 11:30 a.m.
Re: Dogma and Gurus
LeeG -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 12:16 p.m.
Paddling "styles"
Craig Mackinnon -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 12:20 p.m.
15 heads are better than one....
David -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 11:56 p.m.
Re: correction
LeeG -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 10:23 a.m.
Re: correction
David -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: correction
Jed -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 9:31 p.m.
Re: Dogma and Gurus
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 8:44 p.m.
"Curls for the girls"
Craig Mackinnon -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 9:44 a.m.
Not necessarily
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 1:24 p.m.
Not necessarily...
Craig Mackinnon -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 3:38 p.m.
Re: Not necessarily...
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 5:02 p.m.
Re: Not necessarily...
Greg Stamer -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 6:49 p.m.
Thanks for clearing that up, Greg.
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 9:21 a.m.
Re: Thanks for clearing that up, Greg.
Greg Stamer -- Tuesday, 28 May 2002, at 12:12 p.m.
Re: Thanks for clearing that up, Greg.
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 28 May 2002, at 12:28 p.m.
Dogma Rulz, Catma Drools
Jed -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 12:32 p.m.
A good demo of torso rotation benefits
Pamela -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 7:36 p.m.
Maybe not dogma but it seems to help
Jed -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 8:08 p.m.
Re: A good demo of torso rotation benefits
David -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 12:00 a.m.
Over rotation
M.Hamilton -- Friday, 24 May 2002, at 12:39 a.m.
Not MH above,but a prank based on a conversation *NM*
MH -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 5:34 p.m.
Interestingly, no one used the word "cadence" ;) *NM*
risto -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 1:40 p.m.
Re: or breathing ;) *NM*
LeeG -- Thursday, 23 May 2002, at 10:14 p.m.
or,... synchronizing the lot... ;) *NM*
risto -- Saturday, 25 May 2002, at 8:45 a.m.

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