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Re: Salade de Fruits
In Response To: Comparing apples to oranges ()

: Sponson are an integral, internal component of many folding boats. In most
: cases, they're the only built-in floatation and also serve to tension the
: skin. That's quite different from add-on air bags for hardshell boats.

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Well, I just agree on this. Though, if you've read that thread, perhaps you've found that most of its substance is relevant on s-o-f's and hardshells alike.
On Nautiraids or the rawer skin yaks we can build here, sponsons are not structural.
Those posters make some points such as: sponsons don't float the yak until they displace water; sponsons hardly make additional inner floatation superfluous.
It seems, in general, that whatever innovative techniques we could introduce to kayaking, their usefulness seems to decrease as our skills increase, which has us get back to basic Inuit traditional gear, one big limitation of course being that we haven't been taught kayaking as kids as a people whose survival and food depended on sea hunt, and some side items like waterproof hull skins in lieu of game skin which had to be greased anew for each hunting trip.
I'm not even sure plywood stations are such a bargain, since structure flexibility is an advantage on a choppy sea. They had round hulls as well as hard chines. And aluminium won't float !
Inuits could have made sponsons easy if they had wanted, as they still make paddle floats. Same for floatations, by the way.
The other big limitation is, most of us paddle for leisure.
You know about this, of course, just clearing my mind.
And ranting.
You're right to find those manufacturers' sponsons outrageously expensive.
They could rather be cut from p.v.c. sheet and iron welded around a bicycle valve; or after some raw surgery, an inflatable cheap mattress could provide material and built-in valve, keeping only one tube.
Or, pool blue noodles or foam could be hung from the sides and fastened by D rings or even a large surface of velcro. In calm weather conditions they could be kept inside light p.v.c. knee tubes underneath deck.
Basically, inner volume and floatation would be the way for us who can't yet roll as Inuits, provided we don't cling to primary stability as totemic value?

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Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continues
Re: Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continue
Re: Seasonal ?
But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the issue?
Re: But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the iss
Good point, Nick...but let me rephrase...
I couldn't agree more... *NM*
interesting info???
alternative sponson supplier
Check out the "Paddle Loom Float"...
Re: alternative sponson supplier
Yawn...
Sponsons not a hot item I can see...:)
Re: good golly
Agreed, but what about sponsons themselves.. *NM*
Re: a little one tracked are we? *NM*
Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
You heard a reason but you didn't listen.
I am listening, are you?
Being at the Center of a Black Hole
Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs. *NM*
Re: Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs.
Brianne, I didn't know you cared... *NM*
Re: Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs.
Setting the record straight
Good points, don't agree with all, but fair enough *NM*
you're right - - -
Thanks Dan, me too, are we cool now?
sure we're cool - - -
LOL *NM*
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
Comparing apples to oranges
Re: Salade de Fruits
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
My reasons for not using them . .
OT: rules for survival...
Clarification . .
"We are all between swims"
Re: My reasons for not using them . .
making sense of gear instead of skill - - -
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
more reasons for:
Funny thing...
Re: Funny thing...
Re: technique and knowledge vs. equipment
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
Re: fishing
Yoda speaks, he does
Re: hmgmgmg, confused he is
you're a perfect candidate for sponsons - - -
Re: Who should stay home?
Sponsons bring up some strong emotions... *NM*
Re: Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continue
Sure, but would you give Timmy any of YOUR money?
Re: No, but thats not the question.
Re: No, but thats not the question.
Re: No, but thats not the question.
when melted down - - -
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