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But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the issue?

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but rather than argue, lets have a saftey clinic and see how the different
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Tim, no doubt paddle float would win in terms of sheer deployment time, that was never a question for me. The key is that you are more stable after rescue with sponsons. Paddle float cannot give you that. Paddle float might be lost. Sponsons may be deployed prior to capsize to stablize boat, please believe me here, it certainly does, without significant compromise of secondary stability. The rest of the post...right on, really well written, got alot out of reading it. We are a damned safe bunch...THESE DAYS.

Unfortunately, 3 of those 12 annual fatalities were my friends, here's to the memory of Jane Carter and her husband and also to Barry Alwater, all of whom died because of lack of training...those are the names of those I have lost along the way, and part of my reasoning behind triple redundancy backup systems. Jane and hubby died off the gulf islands during failed assisted rescue, no PFD's found on bodies...we smoked hemp together in the 70's, she never made it past the early 80's. Barry was 19 when he drowned kayaking in Nova Scotia. These were unconnected incidents, and they served as my introduction to the sport. On my first paddle in 1979, I capsized twice, we went out like a couple of fools into whitecapped waters. After somehow getting back in the yak the first time, I capsized again and swam to shore with the boat. There I got stuck in the surf for an hour. No biggy, just wet. Hundreds of people still take to the water in a yak without any training each year, maybe its thousands world wide. I just taught a private lesson to a couple from Brazil, they can't find instruction where they live, but yak's are freely available. Our work is only beginning...

I'm not exploiting their names here for a point, God forbid...but Jane Carter and Barry Alwater are real people who never made it back. So I say triple, quadriple, quintuple redundancy. And so does John Dowd, especially for the solo paddler.

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Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continues
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Re: Seasonal ?
But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the issue?
Re: But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the iss
Good point, Nick...but let me rephrase...
I couldn't agree more... *NM*
interesting info???
alternative sponson supplier
Check out the "Paddle Loom Float"...
Re: alternative sponson supplier
Yawn...
Sponsons not a hot item I can see...:)
Re: good golly
Agreed, but what about sponsons themselves.. *NM*
Re: a little one tracked are we? *NM*
Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
You heard a reason but you didn't listen.
I am listening, are you?
Being at the Center of a Black Hole
Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs. *NM*
Re: Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs.
Brianne, I didn't know you cared... *NM*
Re: Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs.
Setting the record straight
Good points, don't agree with all, but fair enough *NM*
you're right - - -
Thanks Dan, me too, are we cool now?
sure we're cool - - -
LOL *NM*
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
Comparing apples to oranges
Re: Salade de Fruits
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
My reasons for not using them . .
OT: rules for survival...
Clarification . .
"We are all between swims"
Re: My reasons for not using them . .
making sense of gear instead of skill - - -
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
more reasons for:
Funny thing...
Re: Funny thing...
Re: technique and knowledge vs. equipment
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
Re: fishing
Yoda speaks, he does
Re: hmgmgmg, confused he is
you're a perfect candidate for sponsons - - -
Re: Who should stay home?
Sponsons bring up some strong emotions... *NM*
Re: Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continue
Sure, but would you give Timmy any of YOUR money?
Re: No, but thats not the question.
Re: No, but thats not the question.
Re: No, but thats not the question.
when melted down - - -
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