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you're a perfect candidate for sponsons - - -

you said: "Face it, the paddlefloat rescue is close to worthless in many conditions that demand it, when wind opposes current it is a waste of time." "the stupidity of the Eskimo bow rescue or the idiocy of doing a T with loaded boats in 2 meter waves. I got T rescue stories, punctured boats, second capsizes, broken paddle shafts, ripped spray skirts, face it, it sucks and is a temporary, imperfect solution.

---> this is absolutely false . if you cannot perform a paddlefloat rescue in the conditions that require it, YOUR problem is that you simply don't know how to do a paddlefloat reentry --- and YOU haven't practiced it in the conditions in which it might be necessary. it's also obvious that you have not a clue about how to run a T-rescue properly. don't blame broken paddle shafts or ripped spray skirts on the appropriate rescue .. rather it's your lack of skill which is at fault.

you also said: "And I don't think that many people practice rolling in a loaded, expedition ready boat; with the same panic that a sudden squall or gale force wind can produce".

---> and whose fault is that? YOURS again. if you cannot roll in "real world conditions", then you've got two choices: (1) go out and practice rolling in conditions or (2) don't go out in conditions which are more than your skill level should allow. incidentally, rolling in a loaded boat is considered by many to actually be easier than an empty boat.

you said: "So most real world rolling experience is lacking and the paddle float is unreliable in all but the most practised hands. So what you have to pre-rig them, it only takes a couple of hours and you leave it there permanently. You pre-rig the rental fleet the same way. What's the big deal, are we really in a hurry?"

---> i'd suggest again that the answer is not to load up your boat with flotation but rather, to avoid paddling in conditions in which you have no skill. that's even simpler than rigging your boat for sponsons. wind too strong for your skill level? don't paddle in it. waves too high for your skill level? don't paddle in them. current too strong for you? don't paddle in it. getting caught in conditions which are more than your skill level is 99% YOUR FAULT. listen to the weather radio. know the prevailing conditions for the area you intend to paddle in. learn about currents and tides. understand how wind, tide and current impact the area you are paddling in. and most of all, LEARN TO PADDLE YOUR KAYAK. if that's too much for you, stay home.

finally you said: "paddling without sponsons in anything but basic flatwater protected conditions, is unadvised."

---> sorry, but this is the stupidest reactionary statement i've ever read. you are the perfect candidate for sponsons. i'd not be surprised to find you used them in the bathtub .. do you know how many people drown in their own bathtub? sheeesh, you had better take up a new sport. boating of any sort is obviously not for you. try something in the livingroom ... it's safer for you there.

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Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continues
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Re: Seasonal ?
But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the issue?
Re: But isn't redundancy of rescue devices the iss
Good point, Nick...but let me rephrase...
I couldn't agree more... *NM*
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alternative sponson supplier
Check out the "Paddle Loom Float"...
Re: alternative sponson supplier
Yawn...
Sponsons not a hot item I can see...:)
Re: good golly
Agreed, but what about sponsons themselves.. *NM*
Re: a little one tracked are we? *NM*
Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
You heard a reason but you didn't listen.
I am listening, are you?
Being at the Center of a Black Hole
Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs. *NM*
Re: Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs.
Brianne, I didn't know you cared... *NM*
Re: Never seen someone do a PF rescue in 20 secs.
Setting the record straight
Good points, don't agree with all, but fair enough *NM*
you're right - - -
Thanks Dan, me too, are we cool now?
sure we're cool - - -
LOL *NM*
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
Comparing apples to oranges
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Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
Re: Haven't heard one good reason not to yet...
My reasons for not using them . .
OT: rules for survival...
Clarification . .
"We are all between swims"
Re: My reasons for not using them . .
making sense of gear instead of skill - - -
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
more reasons for:
Funny thing...
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Re: technique and knowledge vs. equipment
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
Re: Good reasons not to, but some good reasons to.
Re: fishing
Yoda speaks, he does
Re: hmgmgmg, confused he is
you're a perfect candidate for sponsons - - -
Re: Who should stay home?
Sponsons bring up some strong emotions... *NM*
Re: Georgian Bay Kayaks - The Sponson War Continue
Sure, but would you give Timmy any of YOUR money?
Re: No, but thats not the question.
Re: No, but thats not the question.
Re: No, but thats not the question.
when melted down - - -
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