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Re: shorter double

Posted By: glen sponagle
Date: Friday, 16 October 2009, at 12:37 p.m.

In Response To: Re: shorter double (Andy Waddington)

: Short boats need to get their volume from somewhere and in a double under
: 20 feet, this has got to come as beam. Long doubles are already beamier than
: singles (after all - they're nothing like double the length or you would be
: into 30+foot boats), so short doubles are beamier still.

: Stability isn't the only issue with a lot of beam. Bleeding knuckles are the
: main problem. Unless you are 7 foot nineteen and built like a gorilla,
: anything
: wider than 26 inches is going to make it hard to use a paddle without either
: bashing your knuckles or rocking the boat from side to side.

: We rented some doubles in New Zealand which were 75 cm beam (almost thirty
: inches) and they were absolute pigs - no tracking, huge windage, very noisy
: as paddles kept catching on the sides (not ideal for fishing...) and whilst
: most doubles are easily faster than singles, these definitely were not, and
: were very hard work into the bargain ... we completely failed to get them
: round one headland into the wind - good job that wasn't the way home !

: If storage is a problem, build a twenty foot or more take-apart double which
: will store in two shorter pieces. The bulkhead aft of the forward cockpit is
: a good place for the split. Then you can use a design that paddles well. Our
: double is about 26" beam, and is ludicrously stable, even when empty -
: if I
: was building one myself I'd be aiming to keep the beam at about 62 cm (24½
: inches) and a lot longer than our 21 foot boat...

: Andy

thanks andy for your opinion,is anyone using a 20 foot double for fishing a small river,how's this working out

Messages In This Thread

shorter double
glen sponagle -- Thursday, 15 October 2009, at 9:05 p.m.
Re: shorter double
Andy Waddington -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 11:59 a.m.
Re: shorter double
glen sponagle -- Friday, 16 October 2009, at 12:37 p.m.
Re: shorter double
Andy Waddington -- Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 7:50 a.m.
Re: shorter double
glen sponagle -- Sunday, 18 October 2009, at 10:00 a.m.
Re: shorter double
Andy Waddington -- Tuesday, 20 October 2009, at 10:03 a.m.
Re: shorter double
glen sponagle -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, at 7:52 a.m.
Re: shorter double
Randy Knauff -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, at 6:38 p.m.

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