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Re: busting laminates

Posted By: Tapio Manner
Date: Monday, 1 May 2000, at 1:24 p.m.

In Response To: Re: busting laminates (Nick Schade)

: Tapio, Do you have any report or more detailed information you could share
: with us? Graphs, numbers, pictures? Nick

Sorry, haven't got anything left after three movings. But I still remember a few things: we ended up using a so called "mini sandwich" which has the "harder" (glass, carbon) reinforcements on the outsides and organic fibers in the middle. We used a commercial laminate analysis program to screening and then tested the chosen ones. Bending was done with a simple spring scale arrangement and impact by taking a fairly heavy steel bar and dropping it from constant height several times or rising it trying to get penetration on one go. Both gave results in the same direction. Be careful if you test that way, some of the test panels bounced the bar back quite high!

There seems to be a composites design discussion going after this started, intresting subject but there is just no way to teach anisotropic materials design philosophy by e-mail. And the idea of using FEM (users of which logically are called FEMinists) does not make it any easier.

I think we used finally 150 g/m2 (2/2 twill) carbon on the inside, 160 g/m2 reinf-polyester in the middle and 160 g/m2 (2/2 twill) glass on the outside. And spent sometime trying to get the resin content to the minimum, I think we ended with something like 50/50 in weight which is not too bad considering the carbon and polyester.

TLM

Messages In This Thread

busting laminates
lee -- Monday, 24 April 2000, at 10:12 p.m.
Re: busting kayaks
Ian Johnston -- Tuesday, 25 April 2000, at 3:26 a.m.
Re: Testing Skins
Mike Hanks -- Tuesday, 25 April 2000, at 11:55 a.m.
Re: Testing Skins
lee -- Tuesday, 25 April 2000, at 10:10 p.m.
Re: busting laminates
Tapio Manner -- Tuesday, 25 April 2000, at 1:10 p.m.
Re: busting laminates
lee -- Tuesday, 25 April 2000, at 10:13 p.m.
Re: busting laminates
Tapio Manner -- Wednesday, 26 April 2000, at 9:31 a.m.
Re: busting laminates
Nick Schade -- Friday, 28 April 2000, at 9:38 a.m.
Re: busting laminates
Tapio Manner -- Monday, 1 May 2000, at 1:24 p.m.

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