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Re: Ever faster, by a decimal

Posted By: Ian Johnston
Date: Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 11:53 a.m.

In Response To: Ever faster, by a decimal (Pete W. P.)

Pete,

I'm no expert but apparently this has to do with surface turbulance. There was a big thing in the media a few years back where someone discovered that a designed pattern on a surface resulted in less drag. The application they talked about was on jumbo jets and how this knurling would save X amount of fuel, reduce operating costs and result in lower ticket prices.

The problem was that each surface shape required a different pattern and this combined with increased manufacturing costs far outweighed the fuel savings.

I have thought of this application to a kayak as it should in theory provide many of the benifits we would want in a human powered vehicle operating in a fluid.

The problems are still the same though. How do you know where and what pattern to put on a kayak? How much increase in efficiency will you gain for the extra building effort?

Another big question is how much of a benifit is this going to be on a slow moving vehicle like a kayak? Would it even be perceptable to a paddler unless they were in a long distance race? It doesn't exist if you can't perceive it!

It is an interesting concept though! Would be nice if there was a computer program that could put you in the ballpark before you started building. It would be easy to put a pattern on the kayak and change it as required.

Ian

Messages In This Thread

Ever faster, by a decimal
Pete W. P. -- Friday, 26 November 1999, at 6:16 p.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 11:53 a.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
Mike Scarborough -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: Americas Cup
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 3:21 p.m.
Re: Americas Cup
Pete W. P. -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 4:47 p.m.
Re: Americas Cup
Don Beale -- Sunday, 28 November 1999, at 11:10 a.m.
Re: Fish Scales
Mike Scarborough -- Sunday, 28 November 1999, at 2:54 p.m.
Re: Fish Scales
Pete W. P. -- Sunday, 28 November 1999, at 4:44 p.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
Pete W. P. -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 4:41 p.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
Pete W. P. -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 4:40 p.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 27 November 1999, at 5:31 p.m.
Re: 600 wet paper
Hans Friedel -- Sunday, 28 November 1999, at 5:48 p.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
lee -- Sunday, 28 November 1999, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: Ever faster, by a decimal
Randy Knauff -- Tuesday, 30 November 1999, at 6:41 p.m.

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