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Re: Wide sterns

Posted By: Tapio Manner
Date: Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 4:29 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Wide sterns (Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks)

I have an almost exact (from Zimmerly) copy of an aleutian baidarka (in composites) with transom and all. Even with fairly heavy load the transom is actually above water line, so water line is quite conventional.

Effects are noticed when going with the wind stern easily lifts with a wave and the kayak starts to surf quite easily. Bow design seems to take care of most the bow burying problems.

I am quite satisfied with the design for touring purposes it takes a relatively huge amount of load and still handles easily.

Tapio Manner

: I am not completely convinced by the "longer apparent length"
: theory either however, just about all modern sail boats have a transom
: that sits in the water. While the transom is often above the waterline
: when the boat is upright, they get pushed in when the boat heels.

: The Mariner does seem counter intuitive, and apparently intuition is correct
: in this case.

Messages In This Thread

Wide sterns
sam McFadden -- Saturday, 15 June 2002, at 9:03 p.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 1:09 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 3:57 p.m.

Re: Wide sterns *Pic*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 10:20 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:01 p.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.

Re: Wide sterns
mike allen ---> -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 6:58 p.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 9:09 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 3:30 p.m.

Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.

Re: Mariner's legacy
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 8:48 p.m.

Re: Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 12:22 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 9:22 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 5:12 p.m.

Re: hydrofoil
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 7:21 p.m.

Re: hydrofoil
Hans Friedel -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 1:16 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 4:29 a.m.

Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 8:56 a.m.

Fiberglass Baidarka
Greg Jones -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 9:57 a.m.

Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 3:51 p.m.

Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Bob McIlvaine -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 11:53 a.m.

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