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Re: Wide sterns

Posted By: Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks
Date: Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Wide sterns (Sam McFadden)

: Thanks Nick,

: Wow - that’s wild!! Does the aft edge submerge? I hope you will treat us to
: more photos.

At rest the aft edge is below the waterline. At low speeds the water bubbles up around the back. At speed the water sheets straight off and creates a slight rooster tail. I believe I did not make the buttocks lines aft flat enough to get a really good "planing" like action. I was trying to balance some other variables and ended up with a relatively abrupt upward curve to the bottom just before the stern.

: My concern about the tracking of a wide stern boat came from trying to keep
: the shape from looking too blunt. The extreme opposite of the transom
: stern would be a no-rocker, plumb stern where the displaced water comes
: together mostly in the vertical plane. With a transom, the displaced water
: comes together mostly in the horizontal plane. Is that related to your
: thoughts on the boat appearing longer than it actually is? I tended to
: make the slope of the buttocks shallow, resulting in lots of rocker and
: little lateral projected area aft. I also had trouble deciding how much to
: lift the lower edge of the transom above the static waterline so that in
: flat water with a stern wave and a little squatting, the boat wasn’t
: dragging the transom.

Getting the balance right so you get tracking as well as a good planing section is tricky. With my choice I am not sure I gave it enough draft near the stern to really get tracking, yet I have too much to really get a good planing shape. The result may still be good, but it is a compromise.

Messages In This Thread

Wide sterns
sam McFadden -- Saturday, 15 June 2002, at 9:03 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 1:09 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 3:57 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns *Pic*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 10:20 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:01 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
mike allen ---> -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 6:58 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 9:09 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 3:30 p.m.
Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Mariner's legacy
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 8:48 p.m.
Re: Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 12:22 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 9:22 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 5:12 p.m.
Re: hydrofoil
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 7:21 p.m.
Re: hydrofoil
Hans Friedel -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 1:16 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 4:29 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 8:56 a.m.
Fiberglass Baidarka
Greg Jones -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 9:57 a.m.
Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 3:51 p.m.
Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Bob McIlvaine -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 11:53 a.m.

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