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Re: Wide sterns

Posted By: Hans Friedel
Date: Monday, 17 June 2002, at 1:09 a.m.

In Response To: Wide sterns (sam McFadden)

: I was enjoying the images from meet at the beach (see the building site) and
: was excited to see Nick’s Aleutesque. I’m interested to read any comments,
: in particular from Nick, about the volume distribution and aft shapes of
: the design. Like several others, I have often wondered if sea kayaks could
: benefit from full aft sections - similar to light displacement sailboats.
: This last year I began toying with design and played for some time with a
: hull shape that had a wide stern, but for now I have left it alone in
: favor of a more normal looking “pointed” boat.

: My concepts of hull shape come from “what looks good” rather than an
: understanding (none) of fluid dynamics. I have relied a bit on Kaper to
: keep me from straying too far from the norm, but have not yet obtained the
: necessary references to understand the empirical foundations for it - so
: its been a ‘black box’ tool for me.

: I assume that pointed sterns are the norm because, except when surfing, we
: are operating in displacement mode. Also, playing with the wide stern
: shape raised a few questions about how to maintain tracking, without going
: to a shape like the SOF Aleut boats – which strike me as a bit tortured -
: or relying heavily on a skeg or rudder.

: Thanks,
: Sam

Personaly I feel safer in a more symetrical kayak special in rough weather. But a wider aft section makes the hull more stabel and you can make a narrower kayak.

Hans

Messages In This Thread

Wide sterns
sam McFadden -- Saturday, 15 June 2002, at 9:03 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 1:09 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 3:57 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns *Pic*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 10:20 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:01 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
mike allen ---> -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 6:58 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 9:09 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 3:30 p.m.
Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Mariner's legacy
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 8:48 p.m.
Re: Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 12:22 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 9:22 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 5:12 p.m.
Re: hydrofoil
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 7:21 p.m.
Re: hydrofoil
Hans Friedel -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 1:16 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 4:29 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 8:56 a.m.
Fiberglass Baidarka
Greg Jones -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 9:57 a.m.
Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 3:51 p.m.
Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Bob McIlvaine -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 11:53 a.m.

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