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Wide sterns

Posted By: sam McFadden
Date: Saturday, 15 June 2002, at 9:03 p.m.

I was enjoying the images from meet at the beach (see the building site) and was excited to see Nick’s Aleutesque. I’m interested to read any comments, in particular from Nick, about the volume distribution and aft shapes of the design. Like several others, I have often wondered if sea kayaks could benefit from full aft sections - similar to light displacement sailboats. This last year I began toying with design and played for some time with a hull shape that had a wide stern, but for now I have left it alone in favor of a more normal looking “pointed” boat.

My concepts of hull shape come from “what looks good” rather than an understanding (none) of fluid dynamics. I have relied a bit on Kaper to keep me from straying too far from the norm, but have not yet obtained the necessary references to understand the empirical foundations for it - so its been a ‘black box’ tool for me.

I assume that pointed sterns are the norm because, except when surfing, we are operating in displacement mode. Also, playing with the wide stern shape raised a few questions about how to maintain tracking, without going to a shape like the SOF Aleut boats – which strike me as a bit tortured - or relying heavily on a skeg or rudder.

Thanks,
Sam

Messages In This Thread

Wide sterns
sam McFadden -- Saturday, 15 June 2002, at 9:03 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 1:09 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 3:57 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns *Pic*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 10:20 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Sam McFadden -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:01 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
mike allen ---> -- Monday, 17 June 2002, at 6:58 p.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 9:09 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 3:30 p.m.
Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Mariner's legacy
Greg Jones -- Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 8:48 p.m.
Re: Mariner's legacy
Sam McFadden -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 12:22 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 9:22 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Hans Friedel -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 5:12 p.m.
Re: hydrofoil
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 June 2002, at 7:21 p.m.
Re: hydrofoil
Hans Friedel -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 1:16 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 4:29 a.m.
Re: Wide sterns
Nick Schade-Guillemot Kayaks -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 8:56 a.m.
Fiberglass Baidarka
Greg Jones -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 9:57 a.m.
Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Tapio Manner -- Thursday, 20 June 2002, at 3:51 p.m.
Re: Fiberglass Baidarka
Bob McIlvaine -- Friday, 21 June 2002, at 11:53 a.m.

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