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Re: some freeship techniques

Posted By: Bryan Hansel
Date: Monday, 17 September 2007, at 5:04 p.m.

In Response To: some freeship techniques *Pic* (mike allen)

: here's an example of a the slightly revised built playak 'facetious' (shown
: at the start of this minor thread) where i am working on some deck panels
: and everthing else is turned off as otherwise it would just be way too
: confusing. with these panels, you can see that control point alignment
: does not make sense - esp with respect to hull panel point alignment. at
: this point, this dwg in freeship is just for fun and i cannot say if the
: output would be good enough for these kind of shapes.

: anyway, in all that, i like to sketch in pencil first. pencil is cool in that
: you can sketch lightly if you are not sure and harder where/when you are
: and you can lightly go over areas again and again to work something better
: - almost like clay instead there is a faint record of your earlier
: thinking.

: and really when you get down to it, whatever medium you choose whether
: building , pencil or software, it just takes the time you wish to put into
: it. When i first started drawing in in one program, i redrew ONE reference
: curve over and over for 3 weeks of frustrated but intense evenings until i
: understood and got the feel of how it would do what i wanted it to. It
: sometimes is just hard long work.

: mick
Great tips, Mick. Very helpful. A couple of questions:

1. How do you export to markers? (I've always wanted this feature and thought of requesting it.)
2. Do you have a scan of a pencil sketch that you can post? If not, I'm curious about how you do it? In 3D?
3. On "facetious" in freeship, the uppermost line has a lot of control points on it. Are these connected to edges that will run across the panels eventually or just there to help shape the panel and not connected up? Does that make sense?

Messages In This Thread

S&G: Delftship panel shape development *LINK* *Pic*
Dave Reekie -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 4:35 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development *LINK*
Daren -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 8:46 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Toni V -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 10:27 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Dave Reekie -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Toni V -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 2:47 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development *Pic*
Robert McMurray -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 1:15 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Dave Reekie -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 1:23 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Robert McMurray -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 3:13 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
HenkA -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 9:42 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development *Pic*
Duane Strosaker -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 1:26 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Dave Reekie -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 1:37 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
HenkA -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 9:53 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Bryan Hansel -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 12:14 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
HenkA -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 12:37 a.m.
freeship is still continuing - at vers 2.78
mike allen -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 12:08 p.m.
Re: freeship is still continuing - at vers 2.78
Dave Reekie -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 1:43 p.m.
freeship stuff + vers 2.78 link *LINK*
mike allen -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 3:13 p.m.
Re: freeship stuff + vers 2.78 link
Toni V -- Wednesday, 5 September 2007, at 4:04 p.m.
Re: freeship stuff + vers 2.78 link
mike allen -- Wednesday, 5 September 2007, at 4:31 p.m.
Update *LINK* *Pic*
David Reekie -- Saturday, 8 September 2007, at 8:39 a.m.
Update comments
mike allen -- Monday, 10 September 2007, at 1:26 p.m.
Re: Update comments
Toni V -- Tuesday, 11 September 2007, at 7:55 a.m.
Re: Update comments
mike allen -- Tuesday, 11 September 2007, at 11:55 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
HenkA -- Wednesday, 5 September 2007, at 12:41 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Bryan Hansel -- Wednesday, 5 September 2007, at 1:09 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
David Reekie -- Saturday, 8 September 2007, at 8:11 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Bill Hamm -- Wednesday, 12 September 2007, at 4:53 a.m.
bending ply *Pic*
mike allen -- Wednesday, 12 September 2007, at 11:57 a.m.
Re: bending ply
Bryan Hansel -- Wednesday, 12 September 2007, at 1:30 p.m.
s&g (developable) surf kayaks *Pic*
mike allen -- Wednesday, 12 September 2007, at 2:23 p.m.
Re: s&g (developable) surf kayaks
Bryan Hansel -- Wednesday, 12 September 2007, at 11:54 p.m.
another s&g (developable) surf kayak: *Pic*
mike allen -- Thursday, 13 September 2007, at 1:30 a.m.
Re: another s&g (developable) surf kayak:
Bryan Hansel -- Thursday, 13 September 2007, at 7:13 p.m.
a s&g freeship surf kayak - the 'rail' *Pic*
mike allen -- Friday, 14 September 2007, at 1:33 a.m.
'la ligne' - another s&g freeship surf kayak *Pic*
mike allen -- Friday, 14 September 2007, at 2:18 a.m.
Re: a s&g freeship surf kayak - the 'rail'
Ken Blanton -- Friday, 14 September 2007, at 7:00 a.m.
Re: a s&g freeship surf kayak - the 'rail'
mike allen -- Friday, 14 September 2007, at 5:03 p.m.
Re: a s&g freeship surf kayak - the 'rail'
Bryan Hansel -- Saturday, 15 September 2007, at 7:45 p.m.
some freeship techniques *Pic*
mike allen -- Sunday, 16 September 2007, at 3:46 a.m.
Re: some freeship techniques
Bryan Hansel -- Monday, 17 September 2007, at 5:04 p.m.
more freeship techniques *Pic*
mike allen -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 2:33 a.m.
Re: more freeship techniques
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 8:56 a.m.
corrupted curvature
mike allen -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 3:32 p.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
Bill Hamm -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 6:43 p.m.
the magic *Pic*
mike allen -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 12:41 a.m.
Re: Somebody has to ask....
TOM RAYMOND -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 12:16 p.m.
Re: Somebody has to ask.... *Pic*
mike allen -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 3:02 p.m.
Re: Somebody has to ask....
TOM RAYMOND -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 4:32 p.m.
some are a little more normal *Pic*
mike allen -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 3:58 a.m.
Re: some are a little more normal
Bryan Hansel -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 8:33 a.m.
Re: some are a little more normal
mike allen -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 12:16 p.m.
freeship sketch version of 'solitude 15' *Pic*
mike allen -- Saturday, 22 September 2007, at 6:33 a.m.
freeship 'solitude 15' - 90 deg panel twist
mike allen -- Tuesday, 25 September 2007, at 2:07 p.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
HenkA -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 8:26 a.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
Toni V -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 6:49 a.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
mike allen -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 2:42 p.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
Toni V -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 6:11 a.m.
Re: corrupted curvature
mike allen -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 7:39 a.m.
Re: more freeship techniques
Bryan Hansel -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 9:07 p.m.
Re: more freeship techniques
Bryan Hansel -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 9:11 p.m.
control curve vs actual shape curve
mike allen -- Tuesday, 18 September 2007, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: bending ply
Bill Hamm -- Sunday, 16 September 2007, at 3:20 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Toni V -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 2:43 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Dave Reekie -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 4:26 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
HenkA -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 10:08 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 11:01 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Robert McMurray -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 10:33 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Dave Reekie -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 11:14 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Robert McMurray -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 11:46 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Bill Hamm -- Wednesday, 5 September 2007, at 2:19 a.m.
Re: torture *Pic*
Robert McMurray -- Thursday, 6 September 2007, at 12:19 a.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Bryan Hansel -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 1:59 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Bryan Hansel -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 2:05 p.m.
Re: S&G: Delftship panel shape development
Dave Reekie -- Monday, 3 September 2007, at 2:12 p.m.
Just a thought...
Jay Doorly -- Tuesday, 4 September 2007, at 12:02 a.m.

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