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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Green-white oak
By:Peter F Lord
Date: 12/12/2017, 5:25 am
In Response To: Skin-on-Frame: Green-white oak (Rturnings)

Anyone ever use green wood for ribs, gunnels, etc?
I'm concerned with twisting/cracking after I mill it to shape?

Green white oak is good for ribs. I am building an SOF kayak. I found a nice small oak tree on my property. I first tried to split hazel, mountain ash and willow sticks with a froe, as shown on U-tube, but all twisted madly. So cut the oak log about 4" diameter with a table saw to make ribs approx. 3/16" x ¾". Bent them at the places they crossed the stringers and keel using a hot air gun directed at the inside of the bend as Nick Schade describes on his website, but some cracked on the outside. Perhaps I was impatient and bent it too soon. So I then tried a cheap steamer which directs the steam though a small nozzle, and found that after about 30s of focused steam, I could bend the rib, without using the heat gun. The rib bent back a little after it cooled. This method allows precise bending at the stringer. It might work for only thin ribs.

I would not use oak or any hardwood for any other part of the canoe, except perhaps the stems and trim pieces. Too heavy.

Good luck

Peter

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Rturnings -- 12/11/2017, 9:32 pm
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Peter F Lord -- 12/12/2017, 5:25 am
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 7:09 am
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Brian Nystrom -- 12/12/2017, 7:37 am
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 7:55 am
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Justin -- 12/12/2017, 8:56 am
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 9:19 am
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 12/12/2017, 11:55 am
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 3:17 pm
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Qaannat -- 12/12/2017, 9:18 am
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 10:09 am
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Qaannat -- 12/12/2017, 12:55 pm
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Qaannat -- 12/12/2017, 12:58 pm
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 3:20 pm
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Jay Babina -- 12/12/2017, 1:24 pm
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Peter F Lord -- 12/12/2017, 2:28 pm
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 3:28 pm
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Justin -- 12/13/2017, 4:47 am
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Rturnings -- 12/14/2017, 8:26 am
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Rturnings -- 12/12/2017, 3:24 pm
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Jay Babina -- 12/13/2017, 7:08 am
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Rturnings -- 12/13/2017, 8:00 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/14/2017, 12:26 am
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Rturnings -- 12/14/2017, 8:07 am
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Rturnings -- 12/14/2017, 8:56 am
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Peter F Lord -- 12/22/2017, 5:41 am
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Rtturnings -- 12/22/2017, 1:28 pm
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Peter F Lord -- 12/22/2017, 4:15 pm
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Peter F Lord -- 12/22/2017, 5:49 pm
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Peter F Lord -- 12/23/2017, 7:30 am
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Rtturnings -- 12/23/2017, 11:53 am
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Peter F Lord -- 12/24/2017, 5:56 am
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Rtturnings -- 12/24/2017, 8:14 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/24/2017, 11:53 pm
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J Van Buren -- 12/26/2017, 9:42 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/28/2017, 1:21 am
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Rtturnings -- 12/29/2017, 4:44 pm
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Rtturnings -- 1/26/2018, 7:04 pm
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West -- 1/30/2018, 4:53 am
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Rtturnings -- 1/31/2018, 4:54 pm
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PETER -- 2/1/2018, 10:51 am
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Rtturnings -- 2/1/2018, 3:40 pm
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Rtturnings -- 1/30/2018, 12:50 pm
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Rtturnings -- 1/30/2018, 10:00 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 2/9/2018, 2:23 pm
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Rtturnings -- 2/9/2018, 8:49 pm