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Re: Repair History - YIKES!
By:Brian Nystrom
Date: 8/18/2015, 7:37 am
In Response To: Re: Repair History - YIKES! (Bill Hamm)

I've worked with mat and there are only a few reasons to use it:

- It increases the stiffness of the area where it's used more than additional layers of woven cloth would, albeit at a significant weight penalty (mat soaks up a lot of resin due to it's thickness and the voids caused by the irregular orientation of the fibers). While the extra stiffness can be beneficial in a few areas of a kayak, for the most part, it's a detriment. A resilient hull is more resistant to everyday impacts.

- It conforms well to irregular shapes. That makes it good for molding recessed deck fittings, compass recesses and other items that cloth won't conform to readily. However, vacuum bagging these parts solves that issue.

- It's the cheapest form of fiberglass. While your comment "Not every boat is cost no object." is valid, it doesn't explain the exorbitant prices for NDK boats built with low-cost materials and archaic construction methods. By rights, they should be some of the cheapest boats on the market, not the most expensive.

The bottom line in the case of this boat is that whatever material was used, it wasn't built properly.

Messages In This Thread

Other: NDK Greenlander repair? *PIC*
Bob -- 8/12/2015, 3:39 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
JohnAbercrombie -- 8/12/2015, 4:11 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
JohnAbercrombie -- 8/12/2015, 4:24 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/12/2015, 8:38 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 9:30 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Nick Riccardi -- 8/12/2015, 4:34 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Paul Sylvester -- 8/12/2015, 5:08 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 9:32 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/13/2015, 10:15 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
JohnAbercrombie -- 8/12/2015, 7:29 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
bsoderholm -- 8/12/2015, 8:25 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/12/2015, 8:41 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 9:35 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/13/2015, 7:57 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/12/2015, 8:46 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 9:38 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/12/2015, 8:54 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Les Cheeseman -- 8/13/2015, 7:16 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/13/2015, 8:24 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 9:39 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Nick Riccardi -- 8/13/2015, 10:06 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/13/2015, 8:02 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Nick R. -- 8/14/2015, 9:30 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/14/2015, 12:14 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Nick Riccardi -- 8/14/2015, 12:42 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/14/2015, 1:40 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/14/2015, 2:55 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/14/2015, 4:41 pm
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
scottbaxter -- 8/21/2015, 7:42 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/21/2015, 8:40 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
scottbaxter -- 8/21/2015, 9:04 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/21/2015, 9:19 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
scottbaxter -- 8/22/2015, 7:43 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bill Hamm -- 8/22/2015, 8:39 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/13/2015, 9:49 am
Re: Other: NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 10:12 am
Also posted to qajausa.org
Bob -- 8/13/2015, 10:14 am
Used but --- abused
Jay Babina -- 8/13/2015, 12:04 pm
Re: Used but --- abused
JohnAbercrombie -- 8/13/2015, 1:19 pm
Re: Used but --- abused
JohnAbercrombie -- 8/13/2015, 1:23 pm
Repair History -- NDK Greenlander repair?
Bob -- 8/14/2015, 10:35 am
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
Brian Nystrom -- 8/16/2015, 7:50 pm
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
Paul Sylvester -- 8/17/2015, 7:08 am
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
JohnAbercrombie -- 8/17/2015, 1:12 pm
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
Bill Hamm -- 8/18/2015, 2:02 am
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
Brian Nystrom -- 8/18/2015, 7:37 am
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
Bill Hamm -- 8/18/2015, 9:06 am
For Future Buyers of NDK/SKUK kayaks
Bob -- 8/18/2015, 11:52 am
Re: Repair History - YIKES!
Brian Nystrom -- 8/18/2015, 7:22 am