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Re: Strip: Redfish Spring Run - Rookie Build
By:JohnAbercrombie
Date: 4/9/2015, 10:09 am
In Response To: Re: Strip: Redfish Spring Run - Rookie Build (Bill Hamm)

Worth thinking about just how much darker colored heavy woods you use, can very easily end up with a very heavy kayak. Doesn't sound like much with thin strips, it's amazing at how quickly though the weight adds up. Big difference hoisting a mid thirty something pound kayak around and one that's more like seventy pounds,

+1
I agree.
It's also an issue if you switch your primary wood from cedar to something like poplar.

Not often mentioned is the fact that straight-grain wood without runout is stronger and straighter that stuff cut with knots nearby. It doesn't matter once the glass is on, but good wood makes the stripping and fairing easier.

If you add up all the costs -honestly! ;-) - to get your kayak safely on the water the wood isn't such a big percentage of the total. If you already have a good paddle, sprayskirt that fits the new boat, pump, immersion clothing, roof rack, etc the calculations change a bit, but glass, epoxy, varnish, etc all add up.

About using a different species of wood- I'd try to match the stiffness of cedar at a given thickness with your new wood.
Taking a wood like poplar and thinning it down until it matches the weight of cedar will probably give you a thin and flexible core between your glass layers.
BTW, I think most builders are using strips thinner than 1/4 inch nowadays. Something in the 4-5mm range is what I use now.

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kevin -- 3/30/2015, 10:49 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 3/30/2015, 1:10 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 3/30/2015, 5:27 pm
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kevin -- 3/31/2015, 7:24 am
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kevin -- 3/31/2015, 7:27 am
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kevin -- 3/31/2015, 7:30 am
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Bill Mayberry -- 4/1/2015, 9:12 pm
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kevin -- 3/31/2015, 7:37 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 3/31/2015, 10:17 am
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kevin -- 3/31/2015, 11:15 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2015, 5:57 pm
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ddaniels -- 4/1/2015, 7:02 am
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Kevin -- 4/1/2015, 9:24 pm
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rich -- 4/1/2015, 11:56 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/2/2015, 1:22 am
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kevin -- 4/2/2015, 8:15 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/2/2015, 1:28 pm
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kevin -- 4/2/2015, 10:00 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/2/2015, 1:20 pm
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george jung -- 4/2/2015, 2:32 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/2/2015, 4:42 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 4/2/2015, 6:05 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/2/2015, 8:49 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 4/2/2015, 10:32 pm
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kevin -- 4/3/2015, 7:34 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 4/3/2015, 8:31 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2015, 6:34 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/3/2015, 10:13 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/3/2015, 10:26 am
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kevin -- 4/3/2015, 10:45 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/3/2015, 12:38 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2015, 6:38 am
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george jung -- 4/3/2015, 4:36 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/3/2015, 8:37 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2015, 6:41 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/4/2015, 10:36 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 4/4/2015, 12:35 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/4/2015, 2:58 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/6/2015, 1:25 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2015, 6:33 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/3/2015, 10:03 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2015, 6:46 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 4/4/2015, 12:38 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/4/2015, 2:52 pm
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rich -- 4/3/2015, 7:31 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/4/2015, 6:51 am
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kevin -- 4/7/2015, 7:36 am
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Matthew2 -- 4/7/2015, 11:16 am
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kevin -- 4/7/2015, 2:16 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2015, 2:55 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/7/2015, 2:53 pm
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kevin -- 4/8/2015, 3:18 pm
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Howie -- 4/8/2015, 4:05 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/8/2015, 7:04 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/9/2015, 10:09 am
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kevin -- 4/9/2015, 2:23 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/9/2015, 2:45 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/9/2015, 9:23 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 4/9/2015, 10:38 pm
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ddaniels -- 4/11/2015, 5:06 pm
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kevin -- 4/16/2015, 9:50 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/16/2015, 12:54 pm
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Kevin -- 4/22/2015, 6:11 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 4/22/2015, 10:26 am
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Bill Hamm -- 4/22/2015, 8:45 pm