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Re: Strip: Rudder mechanism and blade
By:Palle Dam
Date: 11/30/2014, 9:11 pm
In Response To: Re: Strip: Rudder mechanism and blade *PIC* (JohnAbercrombie)

The Nomad is a sea kayak, not a surf ski. So my plan is to make a rectangular stern mounted flip-rudder (Is that the right name?) like the SmartTrack or Feathercraft rudder. They are just mounted with a bolt through the pivot point, so I guess they are easy to replace. Rectangular rudders are probably also easier to construct than elliptical rudders.

I tried to put the picture of your rudder into Sketchup and scaled it to fit the Measurements. It has an area about 188-214 cm2 (very very approximate - I tried to scale to both the vertical and horizontal dimensions). That is 3.2-3.6% of the Nomads lateral area.

I have also tried to calculate how this area relates to your Think EZE. I can't find any info about the LWL and draft, but the total length is 520 cm. But since it has almost vertical ends I guess it's more or less the same as the Nomad (528 cm).

I have read that your Panthera is 5.6 m LOA. I can't find any LWL or draft, but I am assuming the lateral area is around 6050-6720 cm2 (The ends are almost vertical (LWL=550-560 cm)and most of Björns other designs has a draft around 11-12 cm). So the SmartTrack rudder is 2.3-2.6 % of that. Nice kayak.

To summarize my calculations:

Nomad with SmartTrack rudder: 2.75%
Nomad with Think EZE surf ski rudder: 3.2-3.6%
Panthera with SmartTrack rudder: 2.3-2.6 %
Think EZE surf ski: 3.2-3.6 %

Average: 2.8-3.1%. I will let that be the conclusion of my rudder area issue. Unless someone has other comments.

Now I just need to find the best aspect ratio. (Relationship between the width and length of the rudder)

Palle

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Strip: Rudder mechanism and blade
Palle Dam -- 11/21/2014, 1:50 pm
Re: Strip: Rudder mechanism and blade
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/21/2014, 3:35 pm
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Palle Dam -- 11/22/2014, 8:23 am
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John Kroeze -- 11/21/2014, 3:43 pm
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Craig -- 11/22/2014, 1:18 am
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Allan -- 11/22/2014, 1:33 am
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Palle Dam -- 11/22/2014, 9:14 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/22/2014, 1:40 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/23/2014, 1:44 am
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Palle Dam -- 11/25/2014, 7:55 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/25/2014, 8:22 pm
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Palle Dam -- 11/27/2014, 6:56 pm
Re: Strip: Rudder mechanism and blade *PIC*
JohnAbercrombie -- 11/27/2014, 7:56 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/30/2014, 12:56 am
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Palle Dam -- 11/30/2014, 9:11 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/30/2014, 11:36 pm
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Palle Dam -- 12/1/2014, 1:17 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/1/2014, 2:18 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 12/1/2014, 1:13 am
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Palle Dam -- 12/1/2014, 1:50 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/1/2014, 2:27 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 12/2/2014, 12:41 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/25/2014, 8:28 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/26/2014, 5:29 am
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scottbaxter -- 11/21/2014, 4:40 pm
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Reg Lake -- 11/24/2014, 12:57 am