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Re: Seeking: Why free plans only?
By:JohnAbercrombie
Date: 9/10/2014, 5:20 pm
In Response To: Re: Seeking: Why free plans only? (MattGeerts)

Matt:
I'll add a few thoughts to your comments, since I mentioned buying plans in my reply to your message in the SOF Canoe thread.

-Most builders are unwilling to admit that they've spent a lot of time building a 'dud' boat, so the reviews of homebuilt boats tend to be uniformly positive.
-In fact, most owners-not just builders- are unwilling to 'bad mouth' their boats - look at the paddling.net reviews for data on that.
-A lot of builders seem to be 'just getting into' paddling, so may not have a great deal of 'seat time' in other (professionally designed?) boats to use as comparison.
-Aside from the CLC and Pygmy boat reviews in the now-defunct SeaKayaker magazine, I don't recall reading reviews by expert paddlers of many plans aimed at home & hobby builders. So buying plans is no particular protection or assurance that I'll get a great design, in all cases.
-If the boat is used in benign conditions - paddling along the beach with the kids, or on a quiet river, most designs will do the job.
-I tend to have more confidence in designs by people that are 'known (at least to me) good paddlers'. For instance, I wouldn't hesitate to build a Petrel or a Siskiwit kayak. Bjorn Thomasson's designs are in the same category, and I have built one of his designs that I like a lot, so I don't think twice about buying designs from him.
-It's not that I'm very busy, or very poor, but I value my time and don't like to waste materials, so spending $100 to get what I think will be a good design doesn't seem excessive. Much above that number, I do get more particular. ;-)

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Seeking: Why free plans only?
Jeff Horton -- 12/20/2013, 7:09 am
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ddaniels -- 12/20/2013, 7:45 am
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Jay Babina -- 12/20/2013, 9:57 am
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Jeff Horton -- 12/20/2013, 11:28 am
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Noel Bennett -- 12/20/2013, 8:48 pm
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John Messinger -- 12/20/2013, 5:38 pm
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george jung -- 12/20/2013, 10:33 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 12/20/2013, 11:19 pm
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Bryan Hansel -- 12/24/2013, 1:26 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/25/2013, 12:22 am
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Bryan Hansel -- 12/25/2013, 9:42 am
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Andy Waddington -- 1/8/2014, 7:01 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 1/8/2014, 11:26 pm
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Andy Waddington -- 1/9/2014, 4:51 am
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ancient kayaker -- 1/9/2014, 10:48 am
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Andy Waddington -- 1/10/2014, 1:04 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 1/11/2014, 11:16 pm
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Andy Waddington -- 1/12/2014, 3:06 pm
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MattGeerts -- 9/10/2014, 4:55 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 9/10/2014, 5:20 pm
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MattGeerts -- 9/10/2014, 6:11 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 9/10/2014, 9:54 pm
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MattGeerts -- 9/11/2014, 12:48 pm
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Jay Babina -- 9/11/2014, 10:51 am
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Mike Bielski -- 9/11/2014, 11:19 am
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Christopher Crowhurst -- 9/11/2014, 1:53 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 9/11/2014, 6:37 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 9/16/2014, 1:27 pm
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scottbaxter -- 9/11/2014, 8:17 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 9/11/2014, 9:38 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 9/12/2014, 12:40 am
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Christopher Crowhurst -- 9/12/2014, 8:06 am
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Kurt Maurer -- 9/13/2014, 10:33 am
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