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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Sea Cruiser vs Sea Tour?
By:JohnAbercrombie
Date: 7/7/2014, 12:32 pm
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: Sea Cruiser vs Sea Tour? (Sean Dawe)

While I sometimes miss the snug feeling of the ocean cockpit, I do not miss the added difficulty of getting in and out!

Sean-
It wasn't clear to me (either) what the 'long cockpit' reference meant - whether a 'regular' vs 'ocean' cockpit, or something like the old Folboat 'cockpits. So I don't think you were that far off the mark.

The small cockpit was one of the things I disliked about my OuterIsland. Being a slow learner, I went on to build a 'Greenland-style' hybrid strip/S&G boat...didn't like the small cockpit on that either, and it was no easier to roll than my Romany or Frej. Both boats have been (finally) 'moved along' to new owners.

If your roll fails or you end up in the water for any reason, a small cockpit is an extreme liability - most of the 'standard' rescues are either impossible or extremely difficult, compared to using a boat with a 'standard (about 34-5" open length?) cockpit. Last month I had a lunchtime (on a group paddle) chat with a woman who emphatically stated that cowboy/scramble self-rescues were 'impossible for an ordinary person'...turns out she had an 'ocean' cockpit boat (a glass Outer Island).

I passed a paddler in a low-profile Greenland style SOF on the water this weekend and I was surprised to see an inflatable paddle float on the deck - perhaps it was for some of the Greenland rolls that use an inflated sealskin? I think it's been shown that non-roll rescues in those boats are not feasible.

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Skin-on-Frame: Sea Cruiser vs Sea Tour?
jamesshuang -- 7/5/2014, 4:46 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Sea Cruiser vs Sea Tour?
Etienne Muller -- 7/5/2014, 8:29 am
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Etienne Muller -- 7/5/2014, 8:36 am
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Bill Mayberry -- 7/5/2014, 9:59 am
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Etienne Muller -- 7/5/2014, 2:03 pm
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Bill Mayberry -- 7/5/2014, 2:55 pm
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jamesshuang -- 7/5/2014, 2:19 pm
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Lodeon -- 7/5/2014, 12:07 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/6/2014, 12:39 am
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Sean Dawe -- 7/7/2014, 8:18 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 7/7/2014, 12:32 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/8/2014, 12:16 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 7/8/2014, 1:05 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/9/2014, 1:23 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 7/9/2014, 2:02 am
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Sean Dawe -- 7/7/2014, 8:21 am
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Allan -- 7/5/2014, 8:00 pm
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jamesshuang -- 7/5/2014, 8:10 pm
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Allan -- 7/5/2014, 11:27 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 7/6/2014, 11:57 am
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Etienne Muller -- 7/6/2014, 5:19 am
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Ken Blanton -- 7/6/2014, 5:52 am
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Jon Mortimer -- 7/6/2014, 8:41 am
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jamesshuang -- 7/7/2014, 12:00 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 7/7/2014, 12:15 pm
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jamesshuang -- 7/7/2014, 12:54 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 7/7/2014, 1:18 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/8/2014, 12:21 am
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jamesshuang -- 7/8/2014, 12:59 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/9/2014, 1:28 am
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Jon Mortimer -- 7/8/2014, 3:46 pm
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jamesshuang -- 7/8/2014, 6:18 pm
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Jon Mortimer -- 7/9/2014, 9:28 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/7/2014, 12:29 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/7/2014, 12:30 am