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With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!!!
By:John Messinger
Date: 3/31/2014, 8:37 pm
In Response To: Re: Review: We Da Bomb! (Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks)

We (meaning YOU) have developed a first class, top notch product here!!!!! Do you really think the competition is sitting in their showrooms and saying things like "Hmmmm, Well, you really should consider building your own kayak because, 'they weigh half of one of my P's.o.S.'" or "Nick, Rob, Dan, Mike Vermouth, etc. are really struggling to make ends meet, so see one of them about a one-off." NOOOOOO, they are, at best, completely ignoring you, unless the question arises and they are saying things like, "There is ABSOLUTELY NO resale value to these home built crates." or " Maroske fittings are nice, but they ain't got no stainless steel."

And they LIE!!!! Not just small, little white, open to interpretation, type lies. But big baldfaced whoppers. 10 pounds in the product literature is extremely significant. The Valley (that I was hesitant to name initially) weighed 60 lbs yesterday, and 60.8 today on my scale. This is 20% more than the 50 lbs they list in their product literature, 2 - 4 lbs I could excuse, but this is 10 lbs.!!!! There is no grit, dust, water, (just a few pine needles) in the bilge of this cheese wagon. Do you think Valley might have erred the other way and say the boat, in reality, weighed 40 lbs????? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL!!!!!!

The real life significance I have to deal with, is that I have no problem deadlifting one of my

Messages In This Thread

Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC*
John Messinger -- 3/30/2014, 9:23 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/30/2014, 11:12 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2014, 12:06 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 6:39 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/31/2014, 12:30 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
ancient kayaker -- 3/31/2014, 12:40 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Sean Dawe -- 3/31/2014, 12:48 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 3:59 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/31/2014, 4:29 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Sean Dawe -- 3/31/2014, 6:32 pm
With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!!!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 8:37 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 9:45 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2014, 12:30 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/31/2014, 10:12 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ancient kayaker -- 3/31/2014, 11:23 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2014, 12:34 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ancient kayaker -- 4/1/2014, 10:45 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
John Messinger -- 4/1/2014, 11:38 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:31 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:33 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ancient kayaker -- 4/1/2014, 10:01 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/2/2014, 3:19 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
pre-bevelled -- 4/11/2014, 11:13 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/12/2014, 8:08 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2014, 12:26 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 4/1/2014, 4:17 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 4/1/2014, 4:20 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:36 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Marc Upchurch -- 4/1/2014, 7:39 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Etienne Muller -- 4/1/2014, 1:44 pm
The Valley legacy
Jay Babina -- 4/1/2014, 8:37 am
Re: The Valley legacy
Sean Dawe -- 4/1/2014, 1:07 pm
Re: The Valley legacy
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/1/2014, 1:57 pm
Re: The Valley legacy
Jay Babina -- 4/1/2014, 3:11 pm
Re: The Valley legacy
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/1/2014, 4:57 pm
Re: The Valley legacy *PIC*
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:47 pm