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Re: Strip: Bjorn Thomasson HUNTER project start
By:Björn Thomasson
Date: 11/29/2013, 5:02 am
In Response To: Re: Strip: Bjorn Thomasson HUNTER project start (Bill Hamm)

While it is correct that Greenland style kayaks are generally not very fast (short waterline and low Cp), the east Greenland style sloping stems means that the waterline, while short at low speeds for maneuverability, becomes longer at higher speeds due to the bow and stern wave climbing the stems – which means the faster you paddle the higher the possible top speed (dynamic speed function with a logarithmic twist ;-)

With a long and narrow kayak like Hunter you will also get a speed bonus from a favorable L/B ratio, pushing the top speed a little further by easing the abrupt increase in wave building resistance around the hull speed break point.

And on top of that: like old Engish sports cars Greenland kayaks may not be very fast, but sitting low in the water with a very low sheer, they certainly give the impression of speed...

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Etienne Muller -- 11/12/2013, 4:13 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/12/2013, 5:00 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/12/2013, 5:07 pm
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Howie -- 11/12/2013, 5:56 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/12/2013, 7:07 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 11/12/2013, 11:51 pm
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Ralph Merriman -- 11/13/2013, 12:29 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/13/2013, 4:08 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/13/2013, 4:10 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/13/2013, 12:51 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/13/2013, 1:21 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/12/2013, 5:03 pm
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Paul Davies -- 11/12/2013, 6:07 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 11/12/2013, 9:07 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/13/2013, 12:20 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/13/2013, 4:04 am
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John Messinger -- 11/13/2013, 9:53 am
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ancient kayaker -- 11/13/2013, 10:14 am
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 11/14/2013, 9:02 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 11/19/2013, 8:50 am
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Sean Dawe -- 11/20/2013, 12:23 pm
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bryan kapteyn -- 11/15/2013, 9:07 am
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bryan kapteyn -- 11/18/2013, 11:38 am
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ancient kayaker -- 11/19/2013, 12:20 am
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Bill Hamm -- 11/19/2013, 12:34 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/19/2013, 6:06 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 11/20/2013, 8:08 am
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ddaniels -- 11/20/2013, 10:55 am
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Sean Dawe -- 11/20/2013, 12:25 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 11/20/2013, 12:46 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/21/2013, 1:11 am
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John Messinger -- 11/13/2013, 9:55 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/16/2013, 8:02 am
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Nick Riccardi -- 11/16/2013, 10:38 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/16/2013, 4:07 pm
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george jung -- 11/17/2013, 7:01 pm
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Robert Horstmann -- 11/19/2013, 10:02 am
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Greg Galloway -- 11/19/2013, 11:01 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/19/2013, 2:36 pm
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Björn Thomasson -- 11/20/2013, 12:43 pm
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Björn Thomasson -- 11/20/2013, 1:40 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/20/2013, 2:36 pm
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Björn Thomasson -- 11/20/2013, 5:48 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/21/2013, 5:28 am
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Bill Hamm -- 11/21/2013, 4:26 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/19/2013, 5:58 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 11/20/2013, 12:57 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/21/2013, 1:24 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/21/2013, 4:24 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/21/2013, 4:27 pm
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Greg_H -- 11/22/2013, 12:22 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/22/2013, 12:33 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/22/2013, 5:37 pm
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Björn Thomasson -- 11/29/2013, 5:02 am
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Bill Hamm -- 12/1/2013, 12:38 am
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Björn Thomasson -- 12/1/2013, 4:24 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/23/2013, 2:32 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 11/22/2013, 6:11 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/23/2013, 3:31 am
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Etienne Muller -- 12/6/2013, 1:29 pm
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Bill Mayberry -- 12/6/2013, 4:34 pm
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scottbaxter -- 12/6/2013, 9:20 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 12/7/2013, 9:44 am
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Bill Mayberry -- 12/7/2013, 2:24 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/7/2013, 3:53 pm
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Fernando Coelho Jr -- 12/7/2013, 5:31 pm
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Greg Galloway -- 12/8/2013, 9:58 am
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ddaniels -- 12/7/2013, 1:59 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/7/2013, 3:58 pm
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Les Cheeseman -- 12/7/2013, 3:11 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/7/2013, 3:56 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/14/2013, 6:41 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/23/2013, 1:21 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 12/23/2013, 2:42 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/24/2013, 5:39 am
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ancient kayaker -- 12/24/2013, 5:35 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 12/25/2013, 12:18 am
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Nick Riccardi -- 12/23/2013, 6:32 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/24/2013, 1:25 pm
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John Messinger -- 12/24/2013, 9:49 am
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Etienne Muller -- 1/9/2014, 4:47 am
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Etienne Muller -- 1/9/2014, 5:59 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 1/9/2014, 8:06 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 1/10/2014, 3:39 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 1/10/2014, 7:16 am
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Etienne Muller -- 1/10/2014, 5:29 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 1/10/2014, 8:16 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 1/10/2014, 3:42 am
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Etienne Muller -- 1/12/2014, 1:46 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 1/12/2014, 1:42 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 1/12/2014, 4:00 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 1/13/2014, 1:12 am
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Etienne Muller -- 1/18/2014, 2:10 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 1/18/2014, 4:25 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 1/28/2014, 5:39 am
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Etienne Muller -- 2/12/2014, 5:03 am
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Greg Galloway -- 2/13/2014, 8:06 am
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Etienne Muller -- 2/22/2014, 2:40 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/23/2014, 6:11 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/24/2014, 4:31 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 2/25/2014, 1:35 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/25/2014, 2:32 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 2/25/2014, 3:08 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 2/25/2014, 4:23 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 2/25/2014, 7:04 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 3/14/2014, 4:46 pm
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John van burden -- 3/14/2014, 5:31 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 3/14/2014, 6:38 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 3/14/2014, 7:39 pm
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Bill Mayberry -- 3/15/2014, 11:12 am
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Bob Ten Eyck -- 3/15/2014, 5:50 pm
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Björn Thomasson -- 3/17/2014, 12:38 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 3/17/2014, 2:56 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 3/18/2014, 12:51 am
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 3/18/2014, 6:18 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/17/2014, 7:12 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 3/18/2014, 4:37 am
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Bill Hamm -- 3/19/2014, 12:55 am
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Etienne Muller -- 3/19/2014, 4:08 am
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Björn Thomasson -- 3/20/2014, 11:17 am