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Re: Strip: New Builder
By:Ian Johnson
Date: 2/3/2012, 5:12 am
In Response To: Re: Strip: New Builder (Allan)

: Hi Graham
: I live on the south coast of NSW, so at least I am only on the
: other side of the country. :)

: Don't assume that you need strips the length of the kayak. There
: are some builders, including me, who deliberately avoid using
: long strips. I find them difficult to handle and when it gets to
: the point where I have to taper both ends of the strip, I have
: no margin for error. I have built 4.5 to 6.4 metre kayaks mostly
: using 1.8, 2.4 , 3 and 3.3 metre strips. I do all the scarfing
: (except for the sheerstrip) as the strip is fitted on the forms.

: Don't assume that you need new timber. The deck of a kayak I made
: for my son-in-law was almost entirely made of strips ripped from
: WRC lining boards I had pulled of his bathroom wall when I
: helped renovate their house. The deck of my Night Heron Double
: is almost all old redwood skirting boards. The hull of the first
: two kayaks was made of strips ripped from the scraps cut off the
: huge WRC boards by the timberyard when they ripped them down
: into normal size boards.

: Tassie Oak is far too heavy for a kayak. So is most pine. However,
: the effect of water on the timber is not relevant because the
: timber is completely encased in glass and resin.

: The timber I use most, especially on the hulls of my kayaks is
: Paulownia. I don't know if it is grown in WA. I get mine from a
: plantation in Tyalgum in northern NSW.
: http://www.paulownia-timber-sales.com.au/aboutus.html
: I have bought timber from John White for about half a dozen kayaks
: and find him very helpful. It is about 20% lighter than WRC, so
: saves a worthwhile amount of weight.

: I have no idea what the freight costs from NSW to WA would be, but
: it might be worth investigating if Paulownia is not available in
: WA.

Add my vote for Paulownia if you want cheap wood. It's arguably not as pretty as cedar though so having a little bit of that would be nice to create highlights. It's also very consistent in colour so if you want to do patterns etc it's worth having something dark to create the shapes. Admittedly I ended up building with cedar because I found some at a reasonable price! But I'd use paulownia. A guy in Auckland is building a micro bootlegger with paulownia see http://microbootlegger.wordpress.com/ for pictures of how it turns out.

Add my vote for scarfing on the forms, too. A butt joint is a doddle to do in situ and is barely noticeable after sanding and glass.

Good luck! I envy you the beaches you have to paddle from in WA!

Messages In This Thread

Strip: New Builder
Graham -- 2/3/2012, 4:27 am
Re: Strip: New Builder
Allan -- 2/3/2012, 5:02 am
Re: Strip: New Builder
Ian Johnson -- 2/3/2012, 5:12 am
Re: Strip: New Builder
Mike Savage -- 2/3/2012, 5:06 am
Re: Strip: New Builder
Bennelong -- 2/3/2012, 6:44 am
Re: Strip: New Builder
Graham -- 2/3/2012, 7:13 am
Re: Strip: New Builder
les cheeseman -- 2/3/2012, 2:29 pm
Re: Strip: New Builder
Bob Johns -- 2/4/2012, 2:03 am