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Re: Another vote to send the forms back
By:Paul G. Jacobson
Date: 5/16/2011, 2:06 am
In Response To: Re: Another vote to send the forms back (ancient kayaker)

: I dunno about trivial, I'd feel bad if I got that far off cutting
: freehand; these guys should have a jig at the very least.

I know what you mean--but tables of offsets routinely go down only to eighths of an inch, and 16ths are simply designated as plus a bit or minus a bit.
Trying to bend wood chines to get accurate curves from points which are only approximate can cause different builders to come up with slightly different forms. How different? probably 1/16th to 1/8th inch. An aggressive day with a sander can affect the shape of the hull by that amount, too.

I think we overdo the number of frames we use. For the sake of convention we space them a foot apart for kayaks. With older plans for canoes they are frequently 18" apart. They only need to be at points where they will influence the bending of the strips. If this was a vector-based drawing we could call those "control points".

If I was making frames for a living, and couldn't afford to buy CAD/CAM equipment, I'd make hardboard templates and cut the forms with a router with a pattern bit.
it would be more consistent than cutting each set freehand, and much cheaper than CAD/CAM. Maybe their jig slipped.

PGJ

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 4/30/2011, 3:15 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Etienne Muller - ireland -- 4/30/2011, 3:36 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 4/30/2011, 4:00 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Malcolm Schweizer -- 4/30/2011, 5:04 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/3/2011, 6:23 am
Good questions
Stephen Troy -- 5/3/2011, 11:46 am
Re: Good questions
Bill Hamm -- 5/3/2011, 1:03 pm
Re: Good questions
Stephen Troy -- 5/3/2011, 2:27 pm
Re: Good questions
Bill Hamm -- 5/4/2011, 1:43 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Ken Blanton -- 5/3/2011, 5:36 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 5/13/2011, 11:51 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Mike Savage -- 5/14/2011, 9:14 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Stephen Troy -- 5/14/2011, 1:54 pm
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Bill Hamm -- 5/15/2011, 12:26 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Bill Hamm -- 5/15/2011, 12:29 am
Re: Strip: Imperfect forms near stern
Ian Cummins -- 5/14/2011, 5:41 pm
Another vote to send the forms back
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/15/2011, 8:10 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
ancient kayaker -- 5/15/2011, 11:40 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/16/2011, 2:06 am
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bill Hamm -- 5/16/2011, 2:21 am
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bryan Kapteyn -- 5/16/2011, 4:33 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bill Hamm -- 5/16/2011, 2:17 am
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
ancient kayaker -- 5/16/2011, 4:12 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Stephen Troy -- 5/16/2011, 4:31 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
ancient kayaker -- 5/16/2011, 11:43 pm
Re: Another vote to send the forms back
Bill Hamm -- 5/17/2011, 1:12 am
Making forms
Stephen Troy -- 5/18/2011, 12:48 pm
Re: Making forms
Bill Hamm -- 5/18/2011, 2:18 pm
Re: Making forms *PIC*
Etienne Muller - ireland -- 5/18/2011, 2:30 pm
Re: Making forms
Bill Hamm -- 5/18/2011, 3:18 pm