: The conclusion.

: A clean grab with a clean release, and a longish stroke inbetween which is
: powered to keep the water attached to the paddle blade with as little
: turbulence as possible is and efficient stroke.

: Etienne

Very good info. And no doubt I am not a good paddler. While I have spent a few hours in Kayak it has always been by myself and self taught. Up till this year, I have never known anyone that paddles. I have no doubt that I can improve with time. And just building up some strength and endurance will be a great help! Thanks for that tip!

But my question is not all about getting out run by the other guys. I am still trying to learn as much as possible about kayak designs too What is good what is bad and in the case how much hull resistance makes between designs. So it's a two part question.