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Re: Other: kayaker hit by speed boat.
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 9/9/2010, 3:31 am
In Response To: Re: Other: kayaker hit by speed boat. (Michael)

: Nick wrote:

: "The lesson for the kayaker is to assume that nobody ever sees
: you, and that of those that do, a certain number have evil
: intent. You must "maintain a proper lookout",
: constantly look around you to see if there are any boats coming
: your way. Pay attention to the surrounding waters and try to
: anticipate where boaters may go in the future. Observe
: navigational channel markers to help predict future behavior and
: then assume that the other boats are either too stupid to know
: where the channel is, or know more about the area than you do
: and may ignore the channel for a well-used short-cut.

: In all situations the "tonnage rule" applies. If it out
: weighs you, stay out of its way."

: You posted the most realistic and practical reply possible. It's
: called defensive driving: assume every other driver wants to
: kill you, and act accordingly.

: For the record I was a professional fisherman for the better part
: of my adult life. We ALWAYS maintained a proper lookout ALL the
: time the vessel was operating. Not everyone does.

: This still does not preclude every possible accident. Perhaps
: unknown to kayakers, there are situations and certain lighting
: conditions where they are ALMOST INVISIBLE. It also doesn't help
: that kayakers seem to seek the center of channels that vessels
: constrained by their draft or regulations MUST use. I've often
: been in 85 fathoms of water and suddenly come up on kayakers
: enjoying nature in the exact center of the mile wide channel, in
: the exact location where power vessel traffic is prevelant.

: Imagine that, a vessel that draws six inches of water in the very
: deepest and most heavily traveled part of a channel. I prefer to
: stick to water depths that the power boats cannot occupy when I
: am kayaking, it ups my probability of returning alive. If I have
: to cross deep water I try to follow your advice and anticipate
: where a boat will be and when. You can hear a powerboat for
: miles when you're paddling. It's a clue.

: It is also true that there are care-less boorish boaters, just
: exactly like there are the same kind of car drivers. You cannot
: fix stupid.

: Michael

Stupid probably not, careless most likely. Most kayakers and pleasure boaters have likely never seen a chart nor would know what to do with it if they did. So...they may well have been in the middle of the channel and had no idea they were.

Bill H.

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Other: kayaker hit by speed boat.
dave g -- 8/29/2010, 4:16 pm
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Robert N Pruden -- 8/31/2010, 11:40 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/1/2010, 8:13 am
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Will N To Go -- 9/1/2010, 8:31 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/2/2010, 2:38 am
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Will N To Go -- 9/3/2010, 7:29 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/4/2010, 1:49 am
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dave g -- 8/31/2010, 8:15 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 9/1/2010, 6:53 am
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Shark Bait -- 8/31/2010, 10:03 am
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Will N To Go -- 8/31/2010, 1:28 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/30/2010, 5:20 pm
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Michael -- 9/6/2010, 9:42 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/9/2010, 3:31 am
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 9/1/2010, 6:51 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 8/31/2010, 11:50 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/1/2010, 8:11 am
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Fred -- 9/1/2010, 8:18 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/1/2010, 8:28 am
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Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 8/31/2010, 9:11 am
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Kudzu -- 8/30/2010, 9:10 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/30/2010, 9:39 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/31/2010, 4:44 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/31/2010, 5:04 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/31/2010, 4:53 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 9/1/2010, 11:39 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/2/2010, 2:32 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/2/2010, 2:37 am
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Kudzu -- 8/30/2010, 7:51 am
attention getting suggestions?
Mark Rakestraw -- 8/29/2010, 7:34 pm
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Eric -- 8/30/2010, 3:08 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/30/2010, 4:59 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/30/2010, 5:01 pm
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Eric -- 8/30/2010, 5:37 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/30/2010, 9:35 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 8/29/2010, 10:17 pm
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Will N to Go -- 8/30/2010, 12:25 am
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Mike Savage -- 8/30/2010, 7:32 am
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Al Edie -- 8/29/2010, 9:30 pm
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Alex Ferguson -- 8/30/2010, 6:53 am
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Al Edie -- 8/30/2010, 12:40 pm
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Kurt Maurer -- 8/29/2010, 6:39 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/30/2010, 12:42 am
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Robert N Pruden -- 8/31/2010, 11:42 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/1/2010, 8:08 am
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John lasky -- 8/31/2010, 11:16 am
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TheLuckyOne -- 8/31/2010, 7:10 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 9/1/2010, 8:07 am
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John lasky -- 9/1/2010, 9:08 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/1/2010, 9:14 am
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John lasky -- 9/1/2010, 2:55 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/31/2010, 2:46 pm
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John Caldeira -- 8/29/2010, 10:56 pm