: Btw, I've still got plans here, no time yet, to try a carbon fiber
: frame SOF. Trying for a really light kayak that's still durable.
: Course it won't be cheap nor anywhere as simple to build as the
: wood frame one. Have an idea for making CF tubes easily, just
: need more free time.

Sounds like you'd need a roll of CF sleeve material! I think Soller gives bulk discounts. ;) The part I hate about making tubes is getting the mandrel out after the sleeve is laminated. It's not bad on short sections but lengths for a kayak? Wow. I hate just to think about it. Sleeving some solid wood (like white cedar) would work also (not as light though). Fun to play...

Dan