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Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 11/13/2009, 11:12 am
In Response To: Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood (Chris Ostlind)

: Well, from my perspective, the answer to the lack of comparison is
: a big YES and a big NO.

: Carbon is rarely used as a stand-alone shell material. I have seen
: pure carbon kayaks fresh out of a bagged mold with no cores
: present, but it's rare, it's testy and it isn't for the everyday
: guy.

: When it comes to building a cored carbon skinned boat, the process
: is very much like that which one uses for a wooden boat. (e.g. a
: set of forms upon which you build your core prior to laminating
: with your preferred material) You do not have to vacuum bag to
: skins to get a good laminate. Vacuum bagging will produce a
: lighter, higher strength-to-weight ratio hull than without the
: technique, but it is not empirically necessary.

: Fairing a foam core is just about the same as doing it on a wooden
: boat... maybe even a bit easier, as the material is easier to
: remove.

: Two halves of the hull are built, one at a time and then assembled
: to create a final, enclosed hull volume. Foam cored boats are
: built with horizontal, as well as vertical joining seams, so the
: process is very familiar to wooden boat builders in this
: fashion.

: A well built, carbon skinned, foam cored boat is going to be
: lighter than a wooden cored boat (look at the typical Olympic
: Class craft being produced and you'll see that carbon is the
: material of choice for a light and strong boat for elite
: athletes). Carbon and foam boats will not have the same puncture
: resistance as will a wooden cored boat, so there is a big plus
: for wood in this regard. If puncture resistance is not a part of
: your design description, then it might pay to look around at the
: various methods for building that are available.

: Wood VS Carbon aesthetics... well, it all depends on personal
: preferences and desired, end-use applications as to which one
: looks the best. Subjective determinations, such as this, are all
: over the map from person to person, so to haul that potential
: into an argument is asking for an indeterminate outcome.

: You guys should not be intimidated by the sound of working with
: carbon and foam as a suitable kayak building medium. Once you
: get into it, the differences will simply drift away and you'll
: learn to select the material and techniques that best suit your
: design brief and chosen use regimen.

: Look around, have fun and keep an open mind.

What makes you believe that anyone's intimidated by the stuff?

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Kim -- 11/10/2009, 5:06 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Greg H -- 11/16/2009, 3:16 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
kiim -- 11/18/2009, 8:39 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
kiim -- 11/18/2009, 4:52 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
kiim -- 11/17/2009, 7:35 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
kiim -- 11/20/2009, 8:17 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/22/2009, 12:43 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Aaron H -- 11/12/2009, 6:23 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Chris Ostlind -- 11/13/2009, 12:16 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/13/2009, 11:12 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Chris Ostlind -- 11/13/2009, 11:47 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Mike Savage -- 11/13/2009, 12:56 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Chris Ostlind -- 11/13/2009, 1:15 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/13/2009, 4:02 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Chris Ostlind -- 11/13/2009, 5:14 pm
Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Jay Babina -- 11/14/2009, 9:56 am
Re: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 11/16/2009, 12:43 pm
Re: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/17/2009, 1:11 am
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Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 11/14/2009, 3:15 pm
Re: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/14/2009, 10:06 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Mike Savage -- 11/14/2009, 8:09 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/14/2009, 10:04 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/13/2009, 9:20 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/13/2009, 9:21 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/13/2009, 12:36 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Aaron H -- 11/13/2009, 9:40 am
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Greg H -- 11/12/2009, 12:07 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Bill Hamm -- 11/12/2009, 2:03 pm
Re: Material: Carbon Fiber -vs- Wood
Craig Robinson -- 11/12/2009, 5:42 pm