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Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 3/26/2008, 12:45 am
In Response To: Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal (Bryan Hansel)

: When I left retail four or five years ago, we began to see margins increase
: on plastic canoes and kayaks. But that might have been our huge volume
: when all our stores where taken together, and I talked all the vendors to
: treat us as one entity. These were still molded in the US and I believe
: they still are. What we're seeing is a movement of composite kayaks
: construction overseas. I suspect that eventually, as more move, the
: retailer will see increased margins on glass. We were typically 30 to 35%
: on glass, which, BTW, is much better than what most all of fishing,
: optics, and electronics. But not nearly as good as the 40 to 45% margins
: on kayaking accessories. BTW, plastic was 35 to 40%, and we had an SMU
: canoe in royalex that I could put on sale at $699 company wide and still
: make 38% -40% depending on the year and volume. Most of them sold at
: regular retail for over 40%, which was very good for boats.

: Still, if you count kayaking in with the rest of camping, which most large
: retailers do, you'll see that the overall year end margins tend to average
: about 30 to 38% in that category. So, boats tend to fall right in line
: with the average. The problem is there is so much money tied up into the
: big ticket items, like boats.

: As more companies move composite construction overseas, the retailers will
: see increased margin and the consumer will see prices hold steady.

I see we touched a nerve with this topic, woke everyone up. Now if I could just remember who started this one :)

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Other: Kayaks Made in China *LINK*
Duane Strosaker -- 3/22/2008, 11:50 pm
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal *LINK*
Bryan Hansel -- 3/24/2008, 7:57 pm
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/25/2008, 1:04 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bryan Hansel -- 3/25/2008, 9:11 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 12:45 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bryan Hansel -- 3/26/2008, 8:08 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/27/2008, 7:47 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Mike Savage -- 3/27/2008, 8:49 am
Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/27/2008, 7:30 pm
Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/28/2008, 11:24 am
Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 10:55 am
Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/28/2008, 11:28 am
Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 5:40 pm
Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/28/2008, 10:27 pm
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/27/2008, 4:18 pm
Sad... *NM*
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/24/2008, 9:39 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Chris Ostlind -- 3/24/2008, 7:11 am
Re: selling to China
Brad -- 3/25/2008, 8:52 pm
Re: selling to China
Chris Ostlind -- 3/25/2008, 9:10 pm
Re: selling to China
Mike Savage -- 3/26/2008, 6:39 am
Re: selling to China
Chris Ostlind -- 3/26/2008, 9:50 am
China is just people
Jay Babina -- 3/25/2008, 12:39 pm
Re: China is just people
Rob W -- 3/25/2008, 6:01 pm
Re: China is just people
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/25/2008, 2:46 pm
Are we smarter then a monkey?
John Monroe -- 3/25/2008, 3:34 am
Re: Are we smarter then a monkey?
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 12:39 am
Re: Are we smarter then a monkey?
John Monroe -- 3/26/2008, 3:48 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Robert N Pruden -- 3/24/2008, 8:37 pm
I still eat eggs
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/27/2008, 9:33 pm
Re: I still eat eggs
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 10:53 am
Re: I still eat eggs
watiger -- 3/28/2008, 11:56 am
Re: I still eat eggs
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 5:39 pm
Re: I still eat eggs
charlie r -- 3/27/2008, 9:49 pm
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/24/2008, 11:55 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Etienne Muller -- 3/24/2008, 1:58 pm
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Bill Hamm -- 3/24/2008, 12:47 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/23/2008, 8:11 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Andy Waddington -- 3/26/2008, 11:25 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Kim -- 3/23/2008, 8:49 am
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Kim -- 3/23/2008, 12:22 pm
Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China *NM*
Mike Savage -- 3/23/2008, 12:35 pm
Link doesn't work for me! *NM*
Glen Smith -- 3/23/2008, 2:00 am