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Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
By:Sean
Date: 2/12/2008, 8:24 pm
In Response To: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? (Aaron H)

A friend and I were toying with ideas like these, and I figure the best solution is to build a three-piece frame with a one-piece skin. This eliminates the need for bulkheads. The skin should still fit in your cockpit piece.

: Lately I've been trying to figure out how to both transport a kayak more
: easily but also paddle more often, and a 3-piece take-apart kayak sounds
: like an interesting solution to explore. Being able to fit an entire kayak
: inside my little hatch back has several benefits, mainly that I can carry
: it with me more often and will be able to "just throw it in the car
: and go", which should lead to paddling more often at more varied
: venues. Faster assembly time compared to a folder helps too. I don't have
: a roof rack, and the foam block method I've been using leaves a lot to be
: desired (nearly lost a kayak off the roof more than once - a flimsy roof
: panel allow tight tie-downs to go slack on the highway).

: The twist is that I'd like to try a 3-piece skin on frame kayak as opposed to
: a wood-core composite; I can't find any evidence of anyone attempting to
: build a skin on frame kayak as a 3-piece, so the engineering hurdles may
: be beyond my capabilities. It SEEMS straight forward enough, but the
: gunwale/chine/keelson connections to the solid bulkheads seem like
: definate weak areas. Reinforcing these areas with gussets or other methods
: might provide enough strength, but its hard to say just using armchair
: engineering.

: I've also looked at folders, but my boat building budget is very small and
: rules out buying lots of aluminum tubing (or large quanitities of epoxy
: and fiberglass for that matter). I've been unsuccessful in sourcing enough
: aluminum to build a folder, but have found/begged for/bought enough wood,
: fabric, coating, etc. over the past 6 months to make a "Yost"
: style wood frame. A wood-frame folder is a possibility as well, but one
: could build an engineering career on all the connectors needed to make
: this method work. I had all intentions of building a typical frame, but
: now a 3-piece take apart seems like a rewarding deviation from the
: intended course.

: Anyone else seen or tried to do something similar?

: Any potential problems that might need to be addressed?

: Getting others' opinions usually reveals potential problems that I overlook
: or believe to be inconsequential. :)

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Aaron H -- 2/11/2008, 3:55 pm
Why not a 3 piece wetsuit?
Paul G. Jacobson -- 2/14/2008, 2:51 pm
Re: Why not a 3 piece wetsuit?
Bill Hamm -- 2/17/2008, 2:34 am
Re: Why not a 3 piece wetsuit?
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 2/17/2008, 6:14 am
Re: Why not a 3 piece wetsuit?
Bill Hamm -- 2/18/2008, 2:23 am
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ? *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 2/20/2008, 10:08 am
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ?
Bill Hamm -- 2/20/2008, 11:37 am
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ?
Tom Yost -- 2/20/2008, 12:55 pm
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ?
Bill Hamm -- 2/21/2008, 1:15 am
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ?
Bill Hamm -- 2/21/2008, 1:17 am
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ?
Tom Yost -- 2/21/2008, 9:05 am
Re: Awfully heavy seat attachments ?
Bill Hamm -- 2/21/2008, 6:13 pm
Re: Why not a 3 piece wetsuit?
Bill Hamm -- 2/18/2008, 2:27 am
Re: Why not a 3 piece wetsuit? *NM*
Bill Hamm -- 2/17/2008, 2:28 am
Re: Why not a 3 piece wetsuit?
AaronH -- 2/14/2008, 8:42 pm
a 3 piece wetsuit with two pr. pants? *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 2/14/2008, 10:40 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
HenkA -- 2/13/2008, 11:16 am
Re: Roof rack
Ric Moodie -- 2/13/2008, 1:13 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *LINK* *Pic*
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 2/13/2008, 8:25 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *LINK* *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 2/13/2008, 10:03 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 2/16/2008, 9:28 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 2/17/2008, 12:05 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 2/18/2008, 9:22 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 2/18/2008, 9:50 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *Pic*
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 2/19/2008, 10:26 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/20/2008, 2:04 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *Pic*
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 2/20/2008, 7:55 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart? *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 2/19/2008, 12:51 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/19/2008, 2:44 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/17/2008, 2:25 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Sean -- 2/12/2008, 8:24 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Mike Scarborough -- 2/13/2008, 8:27 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
AaronH -- 2/12/2008, 11:34 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/14/2008, 2:11 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Aaron H -- 2/14/2008, 8:44 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/13/2008, 1:29 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Aaron H -- 2/13/2008, 8:46 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/14/2008, 2:19 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/17/2008, 2:36 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/14/2008, 2:13 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Scott Shurlow -- 2/12/2008, 7:33 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Aaron H -- 2/12/2008, 2:41 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
AaronH -- 2/12/2008, 10:51 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
AaronH -- 2/12/2008, 11:23 pm
Re: Roof Rack
Mike Scarborough -- 2/13/2008, 8:31 am
Re: Roof Rack
Bill Hamm -- 2/14/2008, 2:08 am
Re: Roof Rack
Aaron H -- 2/13/2008, 8:44 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: 3-piece take-apart?
Bill Hamm -- 2/12/2008, 2:17 am
Sonnet (excuse me) *NM* *LINK*
Thomas Ziegler -- 2/11/2008, 4:39 pm