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Re: work is WORK!
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 1/20/2008, 3:35 am
In Response To: work is WORK! (Paul G. Jacobson)

: That is basically the point. From the analyses I done, in today's economy you
: can't jump into a boatbuilding business and expect to make a substantial
: profit. For the first few years you would indeed be making better money
: flipping burgers than building boats.

: There is a fairly high financial hurdle to clear, and it typically takes
: years to establish credibility as a boat builder. It is going to be very
: difficult to come up with a winning business plan to present to a bank to
: get a money for starting a boat building business. Unless you invest a
: tremendous amount of your own capitol, the numbers just aren't there. If
: someone wants to invest their own savings in such a venture, then I
: sincerely wish them well, but they should remember that if they put their
: personal tools, buildings and money into the business, should fold, those
: items can be taken by creditors. The US Small Business Administration
: gives odds on small business failures of 50% in the first year, and 90
: percent in 5 years.

: If you want to do this for a hobby, it will be very fulfilling. If you do
: this over a long period of time (as a hobby) you might eventually pick up
: enough business to develop a reputation, or stockpile enough plans to
: sell, or write a few books so you get residuals. Along the way you'll
: build jigs, gauges, tooling, and forms.

: You'll slowly invest in tools. You'll also add "mental tools" to
: your inventory as you learn additional techniques for building, and for
: solving (or avoiding) those problems which always seem to crop up. With an
: extensive background and experience your odds of success are much greater,
: but they are still against you.

: The answer to most questions about success in business seems to be based on
: hard work and long hours. If you are really hooked on it, then you don't
: mind the long hours.

: Either that or you'll develop a sensitivity to cedar dust or epoxy, and have
: to find ways to preserve your health.

: Just some thoughts.

: PGJ

Btw, I spent 20 some years proving this fact, building boats professionally.

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Kudzu -- 1/11/2008, 9:44 pm
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Toni V -- 1/12/2008, 5:22 pm
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Luke -- 1/18/2008, 3:42 pm
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Bill Hamm -- 1/13/2008, 1:28 am
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood *LINK*
Mike Savage -- 1/12/2008, 5:56 am
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Kudzu -- 1/12/2008, 7:55 am
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Mike Savage -- 1/12/2008, 2:13 pm
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Bill Hamm -- 1/17/2008, 8:07 pm
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Mike Savage -- 1/18/2008, 8:00 am
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Bill Hamm -- 1/20/2008, 2:57 am
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Kyle T -- 1/12/2008, 8:34 am
Re: Material: BS-1088 vs BS-6566 plywood
Kudzu -- 1/12/2008, 9:18 am
To make a small fortune building boats. . .
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/12/2008, 3:46 pm
Re: To make a small fortune building boats. . .
Bryan Hansel -- 1/17/2008, 10:03 pm
cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/19/2008, 3:39 pm
Re: cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Bryan Hansel -- 1/19/2008, 9:16 pm
Re: cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Bill Hamm -- 1/20/2008, 2:53 am
Re: cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Bryan Hansel -- 1/20/2008, 7:01 pm
Re: cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Bill Hamm -- 1/21/2008, 2:10 am
Re: cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Kudzu -- 1/21/2008, 9:14 am
Re: cost , value, and pricing of wood kayaks.
Bill Hamm -- 1/21/2008, 2:06 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bryan Hansel -- 1/21/2008, 12:25 pm
Re: Canoecopia
Bill Hamm -- 1/22/2008, 2:07 am
Re: Canoecopia
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/23/2008, 3:02 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bill Hamm -- 1/27/2008, 2:40 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bill Hamm -- 1/27/2008, 2:26 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bryan Hansel -- 1/27/2008, 11:00 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bill Hamm -- 1/28/2008, 2:38 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bryan Hansel -- 1/29/2008, 12:25 am
Re: Canoecopia
Bill Hamm -- 1/30/2008, 2:32 am
BWCA
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/28/2008, 4:09 pm
Re: Canoecopia
Bill Hamm -- 1/28/2008, 2:33 am
Re: Canoecopia
Reg Lake -- 1/23/2008, 10:18 am
Re: Meet at the Beach - Northern Midwest?
Bryan Hansel -- 1/22/2008, 7:02 pm
Re: Meet at the Beach - Northern Midwest?
Bill Hamm -- 1/23/2008, 2:00 am
Wooden Boat Show & Summer Solstice Festival *LINK*
Bryan Hansel -- 1/23/2008, 6:40 pm
Re: To make a small fortune building boats. . .
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 1/19/2008, 6:22 am
Re: To make a small fortune building boats. . .
Kudzu -- 1/19/2008, 1:02 pm
Re: To make a small fortune building boats. . .
TOM RAYMOND -- 1/14/2008, 12:11 pm
Re: To make a small fortune building boats. . .
Bill Hamm -- 1/16/2008, 6:28 am
work is WORK!
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/16/2008, 5:22 pm
Re: work is WORK!
Bill Hamm -- 1/20/2008, 3:35 am
Re: work is WORK!
Bill Hamm -- 1/17/2008, 1:53 am
inner-coastal locations
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/18/2008, 6:12 pm
Re: inner-coastal locations
Bill Hamm -- 1/20/2008, 3:50 am
Re: work is WORK!
Kudzu -- 1/16/2008, 8:13 pm
Re: work is WORK!
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/18/2008, 6:02 pm
Re: work is WORK!
Bryan Hansel -- 1/17/2008, 10:28 pm
Buy a paddle? heresy :)
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/18/2008, 6:07 pm
Re: Buy a paddle? heresy :)
Bryan Hansel -- 1/18/2008, 7:32 pm
You would make a good wife for someone :-) *NM*
Kudzu -- 1/13/2008, 8:36 am
Re: You would make a good wife for someone :-)
Tom Yost -- 1/21/2008, 1:40 pm
Re: You would make a good wife for someone :-)
Chris Ostlind -- 1/23/2008, 7:19 am
Re: You would make a good wife for someone :-)
Tom Yost -- 1/23/2008, 9:34 am
Yo!
Dave ( of Calif.) -- 1/22/2008, 4:13 pm
Re: You would make a good wife for someone :-)
Bill Hamm -- 1/22/2008, 2:02 am
Re: You would make a good wife for someone :-)
Kudzu -- 1/21/2008, 1:44 pm
Or a better business manager for them :) *NM*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/16/2008, 5:25 pm
ROFLOL :-) *NM*
Kudzu -- 1/16/2008, 8:02 pm
Re: Material: Not all BS 1088 is created equil *LINK*
Donovan -- 1/12/2008, 10:31 am
Re: Material: Not all BS 1088 is created equil
george jung -- 1/12/2008, 10:52 am
Re: Material: Not all BS 1088 is created equil
Kudzu -- 1/12/2008, 12:34 pm
Re: Material: Not all BS 1088 is created equil
Mike Savage -- 1/12/2008, 2:22 pm
Re: Material: Not all BS 1088 is created equil
Charlie -- 1/12/2008, 1:57 pm