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I'm sure we can beat this one to death

Posted By: Tom
Date: Friday, 1 March 2002, at 8:33 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Strip: Internal strongback (Rod)

Also with an internal beam, once you have the forms on, it is
: not so easy to dismantle if you have to take the forms off and adjust. All
: will have to come off to get at the center one.
: Rod

Sure you can adjust things, and twists are really no problem as long as the wood is stable. You simply oversize your cutouts a little to compensate for these things.

As to having to take them all off to get at the center one? What do you need to get at it for? Even if your cutout is too small for the final alignment, reach in with a Japanese pull saw and 30 seconds later everything is A OK.

Oh, a note about my experience building a box beam out of 1/2 oriented strand board to build the 20' Guillemot Double. It was much flimsier than the 2x4, cost 3 times as much, took several nights to cut, glue and screw together, and when I was done the gosh darned thing had more curves in it than by great aunts back (or the worst 2x4 I could find at the local lumber yard). I put it to use with a couple of partial forms to hold the deck up to the rafters of the garage while I worked on the hull. I also had to resize all of my cutouts as I had desinged them for a tight fit as I thought a perfectly strait beam (HA HA) would eliminate having to do any alignments.

If money isn't an issue, but being straight and true is, use a steal or aluminum beam. What? too difficult to attatch stations? How about purchasing a laminated beam. They are very structurally sound and dimensionally stable and you can easily screw your stations to it.

Me? I'm on a budget. A 2x4 is the cheapest route and you can make it work.

Oh, as someone mentioned, fasten your stands to the floor. (This can also affect some of the external systems) One bump with your tow and the past two hours of alignment just went down the drain. (or in my case, 10 hours?) Oh its such a great learning experience!

Hmmmm. I think I will try an external strongback on the next project. They really should make alignment quicker. Oh, I have to build it first.....back to the 2x4 and get this puppy rolling.

Tom

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Internal strongback
Craig -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 8:44 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Paul G. Jacobson -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 9:33 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Ross Sieber -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 10:01 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Joe -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 10:34 a.m.
Re: Strip: External strongback *Pic*
rick thomas -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 6:24 p.m.
Re: Strip: External strongback
Ross Sieber -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 6:40 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Bill Oetjen -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 11:19 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Joe -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 12:23 p.m.
Re: MDF, OSB and Particle Board
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 9:39 a.m.
Particle board
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 12:38 p.m.
Re: Particle board
Joe -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 12:50 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
jim kozel -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 11:48 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback *Pic*
John Schroeder -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 1:43 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Ian -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 12:46 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Rob P -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 1:19 p.m.
Re: Strip: External Strongback
KenC -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 9:49 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Scott Fitzgerrell -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 1:06 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Rob Macks -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 2:12 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Joe -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 2:30 p.m.
internal has its merrits too
Tom -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 11:01 p.m.
Re: internal has its merrits too
Scott Fitzgerrell -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 11:50 p.m.
Re: internal has its merrits too
Joe -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 1:19 a.m.
Re: internal has its merrits too
Richard Boyle -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 9:21 a.m.
Well said *NM*
Tom -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 8:04 p.m.
Re: Well said ....MAYBE ?
Joe -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 9:25 p.m.
Re: Well said ....MAYBE ?
Joe -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 11:07 p.m.
Re: Well said ....MAYBE ?
Tom -- Saturday, 2 March 2002, at 5:32 p.m.
Re: Well said ....MAYBE ?
Joe -- Saturday, 2 March 2002, at 6:25 p.m.
Re: Well said ....MAYBE ?
Craig -- Saturday, 2 March 2002, at 7:49 p.m.
Re: Well said ....MAYBE ?
Richard Boyle -- Saturday, 2 March 2002, at 10:13 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Ken -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 6:18 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Tom -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 10:43 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Richard -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 10:54 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
John Skinner -- Thursday, 28 February 2002, at 11:45 p.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Andy Waddington -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 4:14 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 9:18 a.m.
Re: Strip: Internal strongback
Rod -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 11:56 a.m.
I'm sure we can beat this one to death
Tom -- Friday, 1 March 2002, at 8:33 p.m.
Re: I'm sure we can beat this one to death
Don -- Saturday, 2 March 2002, at 11:17 a.m.
death throes
mike allen ---> -- Monday, 4 March 2002, at 1:59 p.m.

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