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skin on frame questions

Posted By: Chris Luneski
Date: Monday, 8 November 1999, at 4:01 a.m.

I have been looking at some pages and posts on various skin on frame kayaks with some thought of building my next boat this way. I have come up with some questions.

Using canvas for the skin and Elast-o-Seal and Snow Roof for the coating:

should the surface which will be the inside of the skin be coated with the Elast-o-Seal before stretching the fabric on the frame?

I have used Snow Roof in another application, without Elast-o-Seal, and was not impressed by its gripping ability. Does anyone have experience with it in this application?

For boats of the same design, will stich & glue or skin on frame produce the lightest boat? (I built two rigid Folbots, a 17' single and the 14' Glider, back when Folbot marketed kits. The boats were anything but light - about the weight of comparable plastic boats.)

I have seen references to using cedar for the stringers. Cedar is light, but not very strong, i.e., a 3/4"x1" stringer of cedar can be easily broken by hand. Unless I am missing something, I should think a stronger wood would be advisable if the boat is to be banged around a bit (as all my boats are).

For what it is worth, Daniel Smith, an art supply house with free catalog, carries a wide variety of canvas duck and also linen in various weights. They only have one synthetic fabric. Defender Industries carries some vinyl coated nylon cloth. Would the vinyl coating be a sufficient waterproofing?

Thanks for your help.

Chris Luneski

chrisl@oregon.uoregon.edu

Messages In This Thread

skin on frame questions
Chris Luneski -- Monday, 8 November 1999, at 4:01 a.m.
Re: skin on frame questions
Mike Hanks -- Monday, 8 November 1999, at 10:24 a.m.
Re: skin on frame questions
Bram -- Monday, 8 November 1999, at 11:55 a.m.
Re: Elast-o-Seal Penetration
Mike Hanks -- Monday, 8 November 1999, at 12:08 p.m.
Re: skin on frame questions
Tom Kurth -- Monday, 8 November 1999, at 9:33 p.m.
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Mike Hanks -- Tuesday, 9 November 1999, at 2:01 a.m.
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Tom Kurth -- Wednesday, 10 November 1999, at 9:12 p.m.
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Mike Hanks -- Wednesday, 10 November 1999, at 11:28 p.m.
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Kelly -- Thursday, 11 November 1999, at 9:54 a.m.
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Ross Miller -- Monday, 8 November 1999, at 10:03 p.m.
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Bram -- Tuesday, 9 November 1999, at 12:04 p.m.
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Tom -- Tuesday, 9 November 1999, at 12:52 a.m.
Re: skin on frame questions
Jay Babina -- Tuesday, 9 November 1999, at 9:03 a.m.
Re: skin on frame questions
Tom -- Tuesday, 9 November 1999, at 1:48 p.m.
One more Question
Jay Babina -- Wednesday, 10 November 1999, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: One more Question
Ross Leidy -- Wednesday, 10 November 1999, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: skin on frame questions
Bobby Curtis -- Wednesday, 10 November 1999, at 12:22 p.m.

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