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KBBS Archive 00,000
Re: Have I Got a Deal For Nick?
Posted By: Nick Schade
Date: Thursday, 6 August 1998, at 5:18 p.m.
I would like to thank George for giving me credit for techniques that were being used before I was born. It is nice to be thought of as precocious.
Obviously George did not understand why I disagreed with the concept behind his challenge. He is appearently attempting to demonstrate that his techniques are better. He has proposed a test that will provide one data point. One data point can not be construed as representative of any trend. The data point he is trying to get is riddled with random factors, currents winds, choice of route through an obstacle, force with which the boat hits said obstacle, manuverability of the design, weight of the paddlers. It is one bad data point that demonstrate nothing.
Lets say I won the challenge. Could I say "my" methods are better than George's. Absolutely not. If I won it would probably be because George made the first mistake, and I don't see the pleasure in winning something on what would likely just be bad luck on George's account. And I don't feel like giving George the satisfaction of bad luck on my part. Might as well just flip a coin and have at the boats with sledge hammer. The results would be just as meaningful.
George, and everyone else that wants to come, is welcome to the Rendezvous. I enjoy seeing boats, the more the merrier.
I don't think George and I have huge differences in kayak construction, just in our approach to what we are attempting to achieve.
> Clearly, Nick and I have fundamental differences about kayak
> construction.> This summer Nick and I exchanged E-Mail about my kayak building
> challenge. Nick carefully did not offer a challenge and I carefully
> did not reject a challenge. But Nick did suggest that I alter my challenge.
> I will do that now for Nick only.> I will come to the rendezvous. I will use a 31 pound 17' woodstrip
> sea kayak that I built (hull - 5oz kevlar, 1/8" redwwod epoxied
> not glued, 5 layers of 3.2oz satin glass). Nick can use any woodstrip
> kayak he has built in the 40-45 pound range (I suspect: hull - 6oz
> plain glass, 1/4" cedar glued, 1.5 layers 6oz plain glass). We
> will paddle. The goal of the paddle is to damage one but not both
> boats.. Nick can pick the route of the paddle (I would suggest many
> launching and landings on rocks but Nick knows the area and what his
> boat is built for) and the time of the paddle (before, during or after
> the rendezvous).> The purpose of the paddle is to help to determine if Nick's construction
> method which most of you use or my construction method is superior
> or if there is no difference.> IMPORTANT: Nick has much more at stake in accepting this challenge
> than I do in issuing it. He also may have reasons for rejecting the
> challenge that have nothing to do with our relative boat building
> skills. So draw no conclusions from either an acceptance or rejection.
>> Those who wish to watch the challenge (if accepted) or paddle
> the two boats to compare 40 pounds to 30 pounds can (if Nick wants
> me to come). The challenge and paddling might give us more usefull
> opinions then the BBS.>
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